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I look at it as "half-empty." After seeing how Oregon got slow-played and

the pro-rata numbers are so big - especially since the SEC added Texas and OU, that in-state "solidarity" won't help that much. When you look at UNC, UVa, NCSU and VT, it seems to me that the only one of the four that's is accretive versus the existing payouts without additions is UNC. UVA looks like they are next on the list due to 1) their academics for B10 or 2) preferred partner of UNC, assuming UNC could make a non-political choice. If all four get invited, it will be at a significant haircut to new conference peers. So basically UNC (or UVA somewhat) are going to have to cross-subsidize VT and NCSU. Maybe that will happen. You are correct to point out that, "at some level of payout reduction" this can work. My guess is that the reduction will be quite nasty, though. That which UNC adds, seems be more than reduced by the other three. I guess the question is "how much?," and "how committed are the VA and NC pols?" It seems that there is more of a state-specific, geographical element to the B10 model, so it seems that if UVA goes there, it might make sense for the SEC to grab VT to check the B10. But yes, at some level of discount the haircut model should work. It just seems the both the in-state schools are worth more being split apart - assuming VT and NCSU can land somewhere.
Posted: 02/20/2024 at 01:09 PM ET
(In response to this post by Vippie1)

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My guess is that UNC and UVa will be allowed to go to the B10, but not SEC
TDVick • 02/19/24 03:41 PM ET
What do you mean by
vtfaninnc • 02/20/24 07:14 PM ET
Will he flex like he did for.....
2hhoop3 • 02/20/24 07:17 PM ET
Who knows. Jerry Kilgore sued the ACC
vtfaninnc • 02/20/24 07:43 PM ET
Let me guess.....
2hhoop3 • 02/20/24 07:45 PM ET
This is a no brainer for politicians. They did it last time
vtfaninnc • 02/20/24 08:01 PM ET
I know all of that.....
2hhoop3 • 02/20/24 08:16 PM ET
Ok, but
vtfaninnc • 02/20/24 08:41 PM ET
I do agree......
2hhoop3 • 02/20/24 08:54 PM ET
Yes
vtfaninnc • 02/21/24 04:49 PM ET
I think politicians will be a bigger player than you seem to think
Hokie83 • 02/20/24 09:20 PM ET
Could be........
2hhoop3 • 02/20/24 09:27 PM ET
John Warner (not Mark although he’s been a beneficiary of it) started month
Stech • 02/20/24 11:41 PM ET
LOL!**
RJHokie • 02/20/24 07:24 PM ET
Play along with my scenario
Vippie1 • 02/20/24 12:08 PM ET
Neither The SEC nor The B1G has an absolute need for that package or any
33laszlo99 • 02/20/24 07:13 PM ET
I don't think the B1G would take all 4 but SEC might
tarheelblue • 02/20/24 02:52 PM ET
1 important thing that many aren’t talking, both VA & NC are growing states
Stech • 02/20/24 01:44 PM ET
It may be the SECs best lineup of VT, NCSU and Clemson
VTCALS72 • 02/21/24 09:35 PM ET
People in the Big 10 and SEC offices are talking about it.**
vtfaninnc • 02/20/24 07:15 PM ET
Absolutely **
Stech • 02/20/24 11:26 PM ET
Tend to agree and think
Vippie1 • 02/20/24 02:25 PM ET
Good point.**
Stech • 02/20/24 03:15 PM ET
So is Az but that has not helped those (2) schools yet**
133193Hokie • 02/20/24 01:58 PM ET
The difference is states of VA and NC
Vippie1 • 02/20/24 05:18 PM ET
It’s growing, but VA & NC has a better time slots, east coast interest, DC
Stech • 02/20/24 03:14 PM ET
I look at it as "half-empty." After seeing how Oregon got slow-played and ◄
TDVick • 02/20/24 01:09 PM ET
If the SEC and Big 10 are cooperating
mancunian • 02/20/24 01:01 PM ET
You're not playing along with my hypothetical
Vippie1 • 02/20/24 01:03 PM ET
TAMU didn't want Texas. What needle did that move?
VTCALS72 • 02/20/24 09:51 AM ET
Texas surprised schools, now Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina are together
Stech • 02/20/24 12:40 PM ET
I think there's serious diminishing returns on more $$ if you're a middling
HokieNoVA • 02/20/24 10:07 AM ET
FSU’s “Project Osceola” report
Victor Tango • 02/20/24 07:52 AM ET
Meaning FSU to SEC? This ACC implosion is a mere pass-through excercise
TDVick • 02/20/24 08:55 AM ET
FSU to big 12
MrFantastic! • 02/20/24 09:33 AM ET
All the rumors out there, they dont recognize the Commonwealth directive
DMV Gobbler • 02/19/24 06:00 PM ET
Pure hopium, not based in fact**
obguthr • 02/19/24 06:46 PM ET
You are not correct**
Hokie83 • 02/20/24 12:49 PM ET
Still waiting for his answer to my question below.**
Stech • 02/20/24 01:28 PM ET
So, do you think the (4) stick together? Or VT/UVA stick together and
133193Hokie • 02/20/24 01:08 PM ET
Maybe all 4 but Uva/VT at this point are together**
Hokie83 • 02/20/24 05:53 PM ET
Key words......
2hhoop3 • 02/20/24 07:22 PM ET
Dont see it changing but no doubt could **
Hokie83 • 02/20/24 08:17 PM ET
From a pure geographic standpoint the Virginia and NC schools
RJHokie • 02/20/24 08:04 PM ET
No lax, wrestling or men's soccer in the SEC**
vtfaninnc • 02/20/24 08:22 PM ET
Thanks. Forgot about men’s soccer.**
RJHokie • 02/20/24 08:34 PM ET
I would imagine
MrFantastic! • 02/20/24 06:42 AM ET
I think you are right RE the Big 12
VTCALS72 • 02/20/24 10:01 AM ET
I think this depends on how many ACC teams actually leave
HokieNoVA • 02/20/24 10:54 AM ET
This will all come down to the media contract. No matter who is
Big12 guy • 02/20/24 10:19 AM ET
Give us th facts then please, what facts do you have 2 support your opinion**
Stech • 02/19/24 08:31 PM ET
This guy has good series of articles
vtfaninnc • 02/20/24 07:37 PM ET
I believe he omits the $10 million + that the ACCN generates
RJHokie • 02/20/24 08:40 PM ET
Not accurate........
2hhoop3 • 02/19/24 06:11 PM ET
Actually he his pretty much dead on correct about this.
Poultrygeist • 02/19/24 09:10 PM ET
One school in each of the P2 conferences would have to be acceptable.
Atlee Hokie • 02/20/24 09:41 PM ET
You do realize.....
2hhoop3 • 02/19/24 09:17 PM ET
I live in Raleigh and yes I know the exact language the Board of
Poultrygeist • 02/19/24 09:35 PM ET
Haven't said otherwise......
2hhoop3 • 02/19/24 09:46 PM ET
Tech alumni out number UVa alumni 4:1 in the Commonwealth**
vtfaninnc • 02/20/24 07:20 PM ET
I do not believe that carries......
2hhoop3 • 02/20/24 07:27 PM ET
Many non VT alums in SWVA have their
RTFC • 02/21/24 12:21 AM ET
I understand........
2hhoop3 • 02/21/24 10:07 AM ET
Yes
RTFC • 02/21/24 10:14 AM ET
Agree....
2hhoop3 • 02/21/24 10:25 AM ET
The issues for VT are interesting in my opinion.
Poultrygeist • 02/20/24 10:39 AM ET
Lil disagree
MrFantastic! • 02/20/24 11:11 AM ET
Disagree?
Poultrygeist • 02/20/24 11:53 AM ET
I get your come backs.
MrFantastic! • 02/20/24 12:55 PM ET
The Virginia schools and the Carolina schools will go together
Poultrygeist • 02/19/24 09:12 PM ET
Both UNC and UVA are terrible cultural fits for the SEC
HokieNoVA • 02/19/24 05:53 PM ET
I think FSU=B1G and UNC=SEC. Guess we will see soon enough**
133193Hokie • 02/19/24 04:57 PM ET
This is what I expect too
obguthr • 02/19/24 07:11 PM ET
I'm not as sure as about ND and the B10.
Atlee Hokie • 02/20/24 10:01 PM ET
They could go to the Big East. They would have no problem
Big12 guy • 02/21/24 08:49 AM ET
ND was in the Big East previously, back when the other football ...
Atlee Hokie • 02/21/24 09:01 AM ET
ND will land on their feet - whether they stay in a new ACC, go
Big12 guy • 02/21/24 09:21 AM ET
Well, you're right about Notre Dame and The B1G, at least.**
33laszlo99 • 02/19/24 08:43 PM ET
ESPN probably wants UNC in the SEC more than FSU. VT to B1G chances?
Maroon Baboon • 02/19/24 04:55 PM ET
B1G, is okay with a school moving toward AAU, which Virginia Tech is from
Stech • 02/19/24 04:45 PM ET
If the 4 from NC & VA go to the SEC...
Old Line Hokie • 02/19/24 06:05 PM ET
Exactly Old Line Hokie, skate to where the puck is going.**
Stech • 02/19/24 08:10 PM ET
Not saying you’re wrong but I don’t think the $EC cares about academics. **
YardBird • 02/19/24 08:03 PM ET
Fans u are correct, University Presidents that vote on expansion Academics
Stech • 02/19/24 08:16 PM ET
If somebody has the authority to "allow" or not allow, why would
33laszlo99 • 02/19/24 04:37 PM ET
I'm not sure why FSU would be hot to trot for the SEC.
HOO86 • 02/19/24 04:26 PM ET
If FSU does get into the SEC their fans are in for a rude awakening
HokieNoVA • 02/19/24 05:50 PM ET
Speaking of an arrogant bunch, I'm waiting for UTex to arrive in the SEC.
Atlee Hokie • 02/20/24 10:09 PM ET
Bobby Bowden understood that, but he's faded from memory.
HOO86 • 02/19/24 07:00 PM ET
It's always made sense to me that UVa and UNC to the B1G
Millpoint • 02/19/24 04:24 PM ET
Well, SEC has always been more of a cheaters conference.
Atlee Hokie • 02/20/24 10:11 PM ET