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They didn't take the official vote, because they don't have the votes,

so technically you are correct. Just a reminder, Texas and Oklahoma voted against expansion, then left. USC and UCLA voted against expansion, then announced their departure the next year. I find it very suspect that CO, FSU, and NC voted against expansion. There were others in the PAC that voted against expansion, and two of them don't have a home, so that might explain NC State if the reports are true. It's very concerning to me and my team is not in your conference. I don't want a "P3", I'll take a P4 at this point. If the schools that have a landing spot in the BIG or SEC are preventing the ones that don't from the ability to survive, it's bad pool. The remaining PAC schools still own the NCAA units from the past 6 years, and it's reported to be 10-15M annually until they expire. The PAC could still coble a conference, but they need a media partner to do it. FBS requires 8 teams to be a FBS conference, but there is a two year grace period if a conference falls below that number. AAU Universities from the AAC include, USF, Rice, Tulane, add SMU, and they have eight. The buyout in the Mountain West is tough, but Utah state is AAU, and then you have SDSU and Colorado State that would be good market additions to go with OSU and Washington state. It wouldn't be difficult to find a 12th. the PAC also has the infrastructure for a network, they just need a media partner. 15M to 20M a year in media dollars is not unreasonable in today's market. Maybe the PAC isn't done.
Posted: 08/11/2023 at 09:18 PM ET
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So the ACC voted down Stanford and Cal. i wonder if the networks
Big12 guy 08/11/23 06:20 PM ET
They did not vote it down. They have held off the vote for now. Different**
133193Hokie 08/11/23 08:53 PM ET
They didn't take the official vote, because they don't have the votes,
Big12 guy 08/11/23 09:18 PM ET
Still not a down vote or a vote at all.**
JKHokie-RunFor32 08/12/23 01:35 AM ET
FSU, Clemson, UNC, and NCSt = NO; ND, Pitt, GT, LOU strongest supporters.
Maroon Baboon 08/11/23 07:41 PM ET
ND should not have a vote in a basic football question.**
Atlee Hokie 08/12/23 04:48 PM ET
Well, UNC & Duke effectively got us in the ACC in 2003.
Atlee Hokie 08/12/23 10:59 AM ET
Reminds me of Syracuse/Pitt voting against expanding Big East FC in 2011
HOO86 08/12/23 10:48 AM ET
Didn't UNC seek to keep us out? They don't like change.**
kwnock 08/11/23 09:17 PM ET
Sue Estroff will not be associated with the likes of Stanford! TIC**
MP4VT2004 08/12/23 12:15 AM ET
IIRC, they didn't want any expansion, period.
Maroon Baboon 08/11/23 09:23 PM ET
Or maybe those 4 know they are
hokie77th 08/11/23 07:56 PM ET
Very disappointing that we weren't one of the definite nos.
Hokie 04 08/11/23 07:46 PM ET
I think I'd take SMU oil money over Stanford academic prestige right now 😆
Maroon Baboon 08/11/23 07:57 PM ET
I'd much prefer SMU over Stanford. I'd also much prefer OSU-nw & Wazzou ..
Atlee Hokie 08/12/23 11:02 AM ET
I don't think SMU would be a joke in the ACC as Rutgers is in the B1G.
Maroon Baboon 08/12/23 11:06 AM ET
Nor do I. How good they would be, I don't know, but ...
Atlee Hokie 08/12/23 04:52 PM ET
If ACC won't take them, then it's either going to be MW or AAC.
tarheelblue 08/11/23 06:37 PM ET
They wouldn’t go to the Big 12. Given Swarbrick’s comments about them
hokieZ71 08/11/23 06:34 PM ET
I don't think the big 10 ever wanted to go that far west, but felt pushed
wwhokie1 08/11/23 07:31 PM ET
Or??? Maybe the big 10 is sly like a fox and gets Cal and Stanford for even
cricket77 08/11/23 08:24 PM ET
Completely disagree. B1G has to combat the Midwest population decline
hokieZ71 08/11/23 07:39 PM ET
I don’t think so. - IMO - B12 keeping
Hokie12thman 08/11/23 06:26 PM ET
Big 12 is going to be too big **
HokiesACC2004 08/12/23 03:44 AM ET
I hope this is the reason, but i don't have much faith. None of this
Big12 guy 08/11/23 06:49 PM ET