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Agree on your first three points, especially #3
I have advocated for years that the ACC count the ND games in the conference standings but make ND ineligible for the conference championship unless they play a full schedule. That being said, I’m not sure whether this is allowable under NCAA or ACC by-laws but it’s worth exploring IMO.
If I’m the ACC I would even be willing to approach Navy as a partial football-only member and let them play ND and three other rotating schools per year if it would get ND to play a full 8 game ACC slate.
Allowing ND access to the ACCCG on a partial schedule isn’t as big an incentive with the playoff expanding to 12. In the 4-team days, a conference title carried a lot more weight. In a 12 team playoff ND is surely getting in with 10 regular season wins and maybe even 9 in most years. They have no chance at the first round bye of course but that doesn’t seem to be an issue.
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We should hold firm on slightly more than the 6th game.
-- Truthahn
Aug 11, 2023 at 11:06 AM ET
Truthahn
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08/11/23 11:06 AM ET
Agree on your first three points, especially #3
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-- cburgroop
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:35 PM ET
cburgroop
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08/11/23 12:35 PM ET
Hard pass. I don't want to do anything more for ND. Done with the favors
-- hokiesrule98
Aug 11, 2023 at 11:37 AM ET
hokiesrule98
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08/11/23 11:37 AM ET
When you say "we should hold firm" on a 6th game, it that the fans
-- Big12 guy
Aug 11, 2023 at 11:13 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/11/23 11:13 AM ET
I haven't followed the negotiations.
-- Truthahn
Aug 11, 2023 at 11:26 AM ET
Truthahn
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08/11/23 11:26 AM ET
If this is about saving the CA teams, I agree with you, the ACC
-- Big12 guy
Aug 11, 2023 at 11:47 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/11/23 11:47 AM ET
ND’s whole play in this is self serving…
-- JLM-Hokie
Aug 11, 2023 at 09:40 AM ET
JLM-Hokie
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08/11/23 09:40 AM ET
The AAC would give ND the same deal as the ACC, maybe the Big12 would too**
-- tarheelblue
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:58 AM ET
tarheelblue
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08/11/23 10:58 AM ET
Notre Dame is looking to keep the ACC alive after it's top football
-- wwhokie1
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:01 AM ET
wwhokie1
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08/11/23 10:01 AM ET
The end game for ND is to be in the group we now call
-- VTCALS72
Aug 11, 2023 at 09:38 AM ET
VTCALS72
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08/11/23 09:38 AM ET
I don't understand this with ND and Expansion voteThe
-- Mercury
Aug 11, 2023 at 09:14 AM ET
Mercury
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08/11/23 09:14 AM ET
I don’t know why Notre Dame has any interest in saving Cal or Stanford.
-- HolidayInnHokie
Aug 10, 2023 at 11:39 PM ET
HolidayInnHokie
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08/10/23 11:39 PM ET
ND wants to save independence, not Stanford or Cal
-- TerryD
Aug 11, 2023 at 05:37 AM ET
TerryD
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08/11/23 05:37 AM ET
Well said. Notre dame is acting to protect its independence
-- Hokie1992
Aug 11, 2023 at 06:50 AM ET
Hokie1992
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08/11/23 06:50 AM ET
That’s fine, but it needs to be a win-win, add them, but ND needs 6th game,
-- Stech
Aug 11, 2023 at 07:18 AM ET
Stech
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08/11/23 07:18 AM ET
We are a partner that has boundaries. A 6th game would be lame
-- goldendomer
Aug 11, 2023 at 07:58 AM ET
goldendomer
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08/11/23 07:58 AM ET
The only thing that is ridiculous is this response to 1 game, especially
-- Stech
Aug 11, 2023 at 09:52 AM ET
Stech
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08/11/23 09:52 AM ET
Six games is nowhere near independent. Heck, 5 games isn't either
-- goldendomer
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:18 AM ET
goldendomer
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08/11/23 10:18 AM ET
What if it stayed 5 ACC games, but Cal & Stan don't count towards the 5?**
-- SpeakToDamien
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:55 AM ET
SpeakToDamien
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08/11/23 10:55 AM ET
If we do not HAVE to play them it is fine
-- goldendomer
Aug 11, 2023 at 11:18 AM ET
goldendomer
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08/11/23 11:18 AM ET
You'd still be indy where it counts. Keeping all the NBC money to yourself.**
-- tarheelblue
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:49 AM ET
tarheelblue
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08/11/23 10:49 AM ET
You are already semi independent in football, this is one game and USC has
-- Stech
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:33 AM ET
Stech
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08/11/23 10:33 AM ET
There is not a football school in the nation that would walk away from
-- Big12 guy
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:37 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/11/23 10:37 AM ET
They can get games, but to get the big money they need matchups, it's
-- Stech
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:53 AM ET
Stech
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08/11/23 10:53 AM ET
Independence is the kiss of death for all but a few.
-- Big12 guy
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:58 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/11/23 10:58 AM ET
They will want to play them, but I think you are underestimating how much
-- Stech
Aug 11, 2023 at 11:15 AM ET
Stech
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08/11/23 11:15 AM ET
I think what is missing is that ND needed a home for their basketball and
-- Big12 guy
Aug 11, 2023 at 08:13 AM ET
Big12 guy
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08/11/23 08:13 AM ET
For that amount of difference, I think they want someone who they are
-- 132863Hokie
Aug 11, 2023 at 08:44 AM ET
132863Hokie
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08/11/23 08:44 AM ET
It takes as many votes to expel teams as it does to add them.
-- tarheelblue
Aug 11, 2023 at 01:00 AM ET
tarheelblue
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08/11/23 01:00 AM ET
Even if ND joined for football, I doubt it would save the ACC in the end.
-- tarheelblue
Aug 10, 2023 at 11:12 PM ET
tarheelblue
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08/10/23 11:12 PM ET
That’s right ND 🏈 would not be that much of an increase, especially playin
-- Stech
Aug 11, 2023 at 07:06 AM ET
Stech
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08/11/23 07:06 AM ET
Agree - the future of the ACC won't (and frankly shouldn't) be determined
-- VPI_1998
Aug 11, 2023 at 04:39 AM ET
VPI_1998
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08/11/23 04:39 AM ET
It would be close enough**
-- SpeakToDamien
Aug 11, 2023 at 03:36 AM ET
SpeakToDamien
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08/11/23 03:36 AM ET
ND in the ACC would easily be close enough to the B10.
-- Truthahn
Aug 11, 2023 at 11:23 AM ET
Truthahn
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08/11/23 11:23 AM ET