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True without a doubt

The Fuente buyout and Pry hiring was the worse AD decision in VT Athletic history. If only for the consequences. And the saddest part is it appeared that way on day 1, but we all had to suspend our common sense, rally around the flag, and hope against all hope that we were wrong and Babcock was right.
Posted: 09/17/2025 at 09:08 AM ET
(In response to this post by Maroon Baboon)

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Pry and conference realignment
Maroon Baboon 09/15/25 11:15 AM ET
Whit went Temu on the Pry hire**
MrBayAreaHokie 09/18/25 12:50 AM ET
True without a doubt
Vippie1 09/17/25 09:08 AM ET
I was hoping that we were getting a younger Bud Foster with Pry.
Maroon Baboon 09/17/25 09:21 PM ET
This hire is more about our intent to play at the highest level...
Hokie Fiji 09/16/25 08:13 PM ET
Be careful with this hire. KU wanted to get to the
Big12 guy 09/16/25 08:36 PM ET
KU has tried to make a splash each time
Hokie Fiji 09/16/25 08:54 PM ET
How "affordable" does the Pry hire feel now?
MP4VT2004 09/16/25 09:42 PM ET
This is where I strongly believe that VT has to be different
HokieAl 09/17/25 10:16 AM ET
How about A.I. coaches and spend all the money on players? TIC**
MP4VT2004 09/17/25 11:42 AM ET
I wonder if the NCAA would allow an AI coach
HokieAl 09/17/25 12:06 PM ET
It would be a lot easier to buy out the contract, that is for sure. **
Big12 guy 09/17/25 12:38 PM ET
"Sorry, WALL-E...we are going to pull the plug."**
MP4VT2004 09/17/25 05:43 PM ET
We definitely would need a plug. If the AI needs wifi in Lane, we're SOL**
HokieAl 09/17/25 06:15 PM ET
I've referred to it as a "clearance rack" hire
Hokie Fiji 09/16/25 09:58 PM ET
I understand the money thing. A proven coach that has
Big12 guy 09/16/25 09:01 PM ET
Biggest issue is that the game has changed fundamentally
Hokie Fiji 09/16/25 09:21 PM ET
Great response, and very interesting. I of course,
Big12 guy 09/16/25 09:27 PM ET
BTW, I think Lawrence is a really neat college town
Hokie Fiji 09/16/25 10:12 PM ET
We still haven't really committed to trying to play at an elite level IMO
Hokie Fiji 09/16/25 09:48 PM ET
Get ready to speak Big 12, buddy. That's where this train is heading.**
Baltimore_Hokie 09/16/25 03:30 PM ET
The ACC has a channel the B12 doesn't, ESPN owns 1/2 that channel, if teams
Stech 09/16/25 08:06 PM ET
Do you think Disney is going to keep supporting the ACCN as a product-
Baltimore_Hokie 09/17/25 10:14 AM ET
I would guess ESPN would rather wind down the ACC network and
thebluelot 09/16/25 08:43 PM ET
On one hand, ESPN and the schools spent a lot of time and money
HouClone 09/17/25 01:14 PM ET
Then you have the PACN. That conference really thought
Big12 guy 09/17/25 01:32 PM ET
It's very profitable, and they have sunk cost into building the channel. If
Stech 09/16/25 08:51 PM ET
I don't foresee a Big12 channel
thebluelot 09/16/25 08:56 PM ET
The only conference channel that gets posted
Big12 guy 09/16/25 09:05 PM ET
I don't either, which is why I think even with the ACC losing teams they
Stech 09/16/25 09:05 PM ET
You're absolutely bonkers if you think VT would be better situated in-
Baltimore_Hokie 09/17/25 10:20 AM ET
Please stop calling people that don’t agree with you bonkers, trying to
Stech 09/17/25 10:44 AM ET
If I've gravely offended you by using the word "bonkers," then I apologize.
Baltimore_Hokie 09/17/25 10:47 AM ET
I agree with almost everything you said
thebluelot 09/16/25 10:06 PM ET
This is the correct take. Nobody with a reasonable take thinks the ACC is-
Baltimore_Hokie 09/17/25 10:22 AM ET
yet the B12 consistently gets better ratings, and that is
Big12 guy 09/16/25 08:37 PM ET
Best 1st week ratings ever had FSU, Miami, Clemson, VT & UNC for a 1/4 :-)
Stech 09/16/25 08:42 PM ET
FSU and Clemson were playing SEC teams. Miami was playing ND.
Baltimore_Hokie 09/17/25 10:29 AM ET
Big12 had 3 million more viewers last year
thebluelot 09/16/25 08:52 PM ET
If that's true, 1 yr is not a good measuring stick, give me at least 5 yrs
Stech 09/16/25 08:56 PM ET
Keep in mind that it was the B12's first year with their schools.
Big12 guy 09/16/25 09:17 PM ET
Still one year is not convincing either.**
Stech 09/16/25 09:35 PM ET
Well, this will be year two. Should be interesting. **
Big12 guy 09/16/25 09:38 PM ET
Don't disagree with your dissent or challenge
thebluelot 09/16/25 09:06 PM ET
I posted last year numbers on this board that
Big12 guy 09/16/25 08:44 PM ET
No proof, just have to trust you right? :-)**
Stech 09/16/25 08:50 PM ET
ya, as I have given you no reason not too. **
Big12 guy 09/16/25 08:52 PM ET
And no reason to either. I gave you real numbers from 2 weeks ago and you
Stech 09/16/25 08:53 PM ET
Not trying to sway you one way or the other. I just
Big12 guy 09/16/25 08:55 PM ET
Fine, I just don't buy it without 3-5 years evidence on ratings, one year
Stech 09/16/25 08:59 PM ET
Fair enough, as Colorado got stupid ratings. **
Big12 guy 09/16/25 09:02 PM ET
Ahem, reminder that I have 10 years of tv data for every school
HokieAl 09/17/25 10:24 AM ET
I would expect the Hokies to pursue Shane Beamer.
HOO86 09/15/25 08:33 PM ET
courtesy call perhaps but unlikely, imo
daveinop 09/16/25 06:04 PM ET
This is the consensus here.
HOO86 09/16/25 07:39 PM ET
Shane basically said, there is one Beamer in Blacksburg, & he has a statue
Stech 09/16/25 07:50 PM ET
I don't know about being miserable
HokiesACC2004 09/17/25 05:37 AM ET
It’s really hard to live in a HOF shadow and be constantly compared, he
Stech 09/17/25 07:09 AM ET
Shane Beamer will never be the HFC at VT. 0% chance. Never. In sharpie.
Baltimore_Hokie 09/16/25 03:32 PM ET
Nah, he doesn't want to follow his father.
mancunian 09/16/25 12:19 PM ET
I doubt he would have any interest at all.**
reestuart 09/16/25 10:21 AM ET
I expect UVA will hire Mike Young**
RiverVT 09/16/25 09:38 AM ET
That would be horrible for us.
HokieAl 09/15/25 09:13 PM ET
"So VT needs better than a middle of the pack SEC coach"
Maroon Baboon 09/16/25 01:11 AM ET
So much depends on new AD, lots of speculation, but I think Shane prefers
Stech 09/15/25 08:41 PM ET
agreed. We have fallen and we can't get up**
VT ChemE 1986 09/15/25 01:15 PM ET
Yep. We picked the worst possible time to fall on our face
HokieAl 09/15/25 12:54 PM ET
This season was critical IMO to position VT for a potential P2 embrace.
Maroon Unit 09/15/25 03:46 PM ET
I think we still have a narrow window of opportunity
HokieAl 09/15/25 05:42 PM ET
Regarding #3
hokieball 09/17/25 09:45 AM ET
No clue. Renovate is probably the way to go
HokieAl 09/17/25 10:28 AM ET
I think you nailed the top 3. It’s a tall order.**
Femoyer Hokie 09/15/25 05:57 PM ET