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VTHokie2000
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I did see that article and I immediately thought of our discussion.

The MAC is in a bit of a pickle because there aren't really any options to expand into KY, PA, NJ, MD, and back into IL. Yes, I know there are DI-FCS and even DII schools in those states. However, those schools are either not in the position to make the move to DI-FBS for football or have any desire to make the move for various reasons. Plus, an argument could be made that Buffalo and UMass should be in the AAC or even C-USA instead of the MAC because they are geographic outliers to the MAC footprint. When Western Kentucky (WKU) announced it was switching to DI-FBS, I was hoping that Buffalo would have joined the AAC so the MAC could fill that spot with WKU. If that had happened then the 6 OH schools (which is probably too much) could have been placed in a division with the 3 MI schools, Ball State, No. Illinois, and WKU in the other division. As far as the Sun Belt losing its footprint of being a strictly southern conference, that may have already happened when Marshall joined the conference. At least I don't think there is a consensus among people that WV is considered to be a "southern state." Plus, if you consider the Sun Belt region to be a "southern region," then some maps have the northern part of the region stopping in the southern part of AR, NC, and TN. Which would mean that Arkansas State, Appalachian State, Middle Tennessee State (when it was a member), Western Kentucky (when it was a member), JMU, ODU, and Marshall are technically outside the Sun Belt region.
Posted: 07/10/2025 at 09:21 AM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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Stech, there are rumors that Ohio has
Big12 guy 07/10/25 08:51 AM ET
I am more against Coast to Coast Conferences, where three hour time zones
Stech 07/12/25 12:25 AM ET
ideally yes however
1947Sunbowl 07/13/25 08:36 AM ET
I think that business model failed with the collapse of the SWC. **
Big12 guy 07/12/25 08:24 AM ET
SEC kicking butt with 1 hour time difference between all schools.**
Stech 07/12/25 12:08 PM ET
The exception for now? Nothing
Big12 guy 07/12/25 02:06 PM ET
Plenty of conferences are staying regional, that's not the point. the point
Stech 07/12/25 06:14 PM ET
I don't think anyone would disagree with you
Big12 guy 07/12/25 06:47 PM ET
Sorry I misread your post. I would be okay with Ohio vs Louisiana Tech as
Stech 07/12/25 06:55 PM ET
Ohio has recently come out and denied that they reached out
Big12 guy 07/12/25 07:05 PM ET
I think East Carolina would have been a good addition, but they may make
Stech 07/13/25 08:10 AM ET
Did it though? A reason the SWC failed is it was only 2 states (TX & AR).
VTHokie2000 07/12/25 08:32 AM ET
The media dollars involved changed everything. All former
Big12 guy 07/12/25 08:56 AM ET
I believe UCF was a football-only member for a short period of time as
VTHokie2000 07/12/25 09:00 AM ET
A sign of the times I'm afraid. **
Big12 guy 07/12/25 09:19 AM ET
Actually UMass did it as a result in the change of the bylaws. In the
VTHokie2000 07/12/25 09:29 AM ET
It's another reason that the idea
Big12 guy 07/12/25 10:36 AM ET
The schools probably created more problems for itself when it decided to
VTHokie2000 07/12/25 11:54 AM ET
Athens, Ohio is in southeastern Ohio's Appalachian region. IMO, Ohio ...
Old Line Hokie 07/10/25 07:39 PM ET
I always wanted Marshall, App State, and while
Big12 guy 07/10/25 07:59 PM ET
MAC/Sun Belt merger of some sort would be some entertaining stuff.**
reestuart 07/10/25 02:15 PM ET
Would be entertaining, but can't see why the Sunbelt would do it.**
wwhokie1 07/10/25 06:52 PM ET
If ESPN is telling them if you want a $3M+ per team media contract,
Big12 guy 07/10/25 07:13 PM ET
Your last sentence is the issue. Low value in the Mac.
wwhokie1 07/11/25 01:11 AM ET
I did see that article and I immediately thought of our discussion.
VTHokie2000 07/10/25 09:21 AM ET
Surprised Buffalo never made more of a commitment
I85Hokie 07/10/25 02:20 PM ET
Maybe they couldn't because their hands were tied for various reasons. I
VTHokie2000 07/10/25 03:28 PM ET
There really is no SUNY flagship
Tailgate Guru 07/10/25 06:36 PM ET
I guess someone forgot to tell that to Gov. Kathy Hochul because in 2022
VTHokie2000 07/10/25 09:11 PM ET
I guess you can call them anything you want
Tailgate Guru 07/10/25 09:31 PM ET
The UC system is very similar to New York’s in that regard
I85Hokie 07/11/25 07:52 AM ET
That may be true about people in Rochester, but it is a moot point for this
VTHokie2000 07/10/25 09:50 PM ET
And here are the enrollments of all the universities in NY State**
RJHokie 07/10/25 09:20 PM ET
I think a feature of a "flagship school" in a university system is it is
VTHokie2000 07/10/25 09:28 PM ET
SUNY is managed from Albany
Tailgate Guru 07/10/25 09:50 PM ET
The MAC expanding and increasing their value will not
Big12 guy 07/10/25 10:08 AM ET
I agree the MAC's future looks bleak right now given how things are playing
VTHokie2000 07/10/25 10:26 AM ET
The G6 probably needs to be reduced to the G3, but there
Big12 guy 07/10/25 10:29 AM ET
One thing that often isn't mentioned in any of these discussions is the
VTHokie2000 07/10/25 10:33 AM ET
A tough sell for basketball. **
Big12 guy 07/10/25 10:34 AM ET
Maybe. The main reason the DI schools did it for football is because it
VTHokie2000 07/10/25 10:42 AM ET