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What value would there be refuting them or agreeing to an extension now?

Trying to refute rumors in this landscape is an abject waste of time. Every one with a place to post something is making crap up and posting it, feeding this silliness. Refuting one rumor just feeds the next one...just look at the responses to this thread to see how many different "facts" are being created out of the non-response to an opinion posted on the internet. As for why they have done nothing yet, why should they? The whole college sports landscape is in a position to explode. How it settles out, who knows. ESPN has announced a JV with their main rivals and is running a sports book. The Communist Block of the US Congress has decided they want a piece of that so they are investigating it as an anti-trust violation (shocking irony). The sports book thing in general has gone out of control and is now one of the biggest sources of money in the system. The fact that they, a content owner with direct relationships with the schools, are now running a sports a book while student athletes are being suspended for betting legally is likely to draw the attention of some faction of pols who aren't yet getting paid. Recent rulings that players have to be paid, new scholarship limits, potential for players to unionize ..... AND MOST IMPORTANTLY in this situation... the two most valuable properties in the ACC are involved in a lawsuit that could result in them not being part of the ACC and completely changing the value of the ACC as a property. And BTW, the fact that they haven't extended the contract yet, IMO is a pretty big indicator that they are very confident that the renewal and the GOR are not linked and that FSU's claim is baseless. That in itself is a $$$Millions bet and they would be the ones with the best insight into all the agreements, not a bunch of losers in their mom's basement with a YouTube channel. ESPN is doing the only smart thing. Wait. Signing an agreement with all this crap up in the air would be completely moronic...kind of like adding 3 welfare schools to your conference when it is already on shaky ground... The only intelligent thing they can do is wait, ignore the babblesphere, and see what gets resolved before they have to do something. When they have to do it, they use the best info they have at that time and do what makes the most sense at that point. Until then, they watch all the fires burn and probably get a good chuckle at all the stupidity flying around. ** Edited by Vienna_Hokie at 8/21/2024, 10:10:51 AM
Posted: 08/21/2024 at 10:05 AM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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Realize my 🔗’s have stirred a hornets nest this week, but why hasn’t ESPN
Stech 08/20/24 07:45 PM ET
I have a guess its involves another media company
hokieninsurance 08/21/24 12:19 PM ET
If the ACC and ESPN are discussing the possibility of subleasing the
VTHokie2000 08/22/24 08:31 AM ET
I would think an extension of the media rights that includes sublease
hokieninsurance 08/22/24 10:26 AM ET
If the GOR is independent of the ESPN deal, and I think it is,
SpeakToDamien 08/22/24 12:55 PM ET
Is there a provision in the media contracts that do not allow
Big12 guy 08/22/24 08:41 AM ET
Bally doesn't sublease
mrcaniac 08/22/24 06:11 PM ET
The article stated that the NBA and NHL were subleased, but the baseball
Big12 guy 08/22/24 06:47 PM ET
Most national contracts would have a sublease provision
hokieninsurance 08/22/24 10:24 AM ET
Where you lose me, is that you are sure the ACC had to consent. You are
Big12 guy 08/22/24 10:41 AM ET
That’s a very interesting theory, and the kind of well thought out option👏
Stech 08/21/24 02:00 PM ET
Ill even give you some circumstantial proofs
hokieninsurance 08/21/24 08:14 PM ET
Agree. This is a very interesting take on what may be happening behind
RJHokie 08/21/24 04:19 PM ET
What value would there be refuting them or agreeing to an extension now?
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/24 10:05 AM ET
Small nit to pick. UNC is the most valuable property in the ACC.**
manassashoo 08/21/24 10:27 AM ET
I don’t expect them to discuss any details, but just not saying we have a
Stech 08/21/24 10:11 AM ET
Why should they? What happens with FSU and Clemson and maybe
VTCALS72 08/21/24 07:30 AM ET
Because discussions and negotiations always take place in private.
wwhokie1 08/20/24 11:19 PM ET
But is it a negotiation? I thought ESPN was just deciding whether to pick
HokieNoVA 08/21/24 09:44 AM ET
Phillips announced during media days that he was in negotiations with ESPN.**
Big12 guy 08/21/24 10:01 AM ET
Of course one guys negotiations is another man's supplying all talking pts.**
Atlee Hokie 08/21/24 06:44 PM ET
I was negotiating yesterday and today, with no details, but I let people
Stech 08/21/24 01:02 AM ET
Jim Phillips has made the kind of statements you reference**
wwhokie1 08/21/24 02:13 PM ET
Okay I remember one, but one and done is not going to cut it.**
Stech 08/21/24 03:26 PM ET
Maybe they find all the gnashing of teeth over this topic amusing
Vienna_Hokie 08/21/24 08:25 AM ET
I Thought About That More Subtle Approach Being Adequately Helpful
WarHog38 08/21/24 02:19 AM ET
I Know This
WarHog38 08/20/24 09:31 PM ET
ESPN’s silence is deafening.
WBGV 08/21/24 08:25 AM ET
Easy answer, they want to help themselves first.
VTCALS72 08/21/24 07:33 AM ET
Don’t have to. They are going to keep this close to the vest
RJHokie 08/20/24 09:35 PM ET
Media companies move slower than a snail
mrcaniac 08/20/24 08:14 PM ET
Maybe you ought to contact ESPN directly and ask them.
RJHokie 08/20/24 07:55 PM ET
So far nothing 🤣🤣**
Stech 08/20/24 08:42 PM ET
And there will be nothing until the last minute.**
RJHokie 08/20/24 08:46 PM ET
You ask the right question........
2hhoop3 08/20/24 08:22 PM ET
Why would the release public comments? It's not how most businesses work.**
jesuisvtguy 08/20/24 07:53 PM ET