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The PAC turned down $25M a year from ESPN (reported), the B12

got $25M a year from ESPN (reported). FOX made up the rest of the B12's media deal. Do you think FOX will bid on some of your content? As long as ESPN has the exclusive, and they do, they have the ACC by the proverbial ____'s. You are right - the ACC could very well survive if the only lose two. If they lose 4, it's all over but the crying in my humble opinion, as ESPN's deal without FOX's money will not be enough to keep the middle tier teams with realistic P2 aspirations in the fold. Unless the ACCN network comes through with the dollars, I'm not sure how they get the media contract to remain competitive. This all comes down to how much ESPN is willing to pay - nothing more, or nothing less. Either the leftovers are competitive with B12 money, or they are not. We don't know what will happen with the media deal, but there is nothing else that even comes close to being a factor in the schools decisions. There will be another round of expansion or consolidation (whatever you want to call it), and VT, as with any school not in the P2 will have to position themselves for the next round. Is that the ACC, or the B12? Truthfully, I don't know - but that auto in the playoffs, and the playoff money is HUGE moving forward. Everyone here knows, or should know, that I prefer the ACC stay together - but I honestly felt the same way about the PAC. 5 power conferences spread out the votes. 4 power conferences gave the P2 more power and money. 3 power conferences, and it's all but done. The next round of contract negotiations and playoff money negotiations would becomes a 2-1 vote, and that does not bode well unless you have a full share of the P2.
Posted: 04/20/2024 at 02:15 PM ET
(In response to this post by VT ChemE 1986)

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The ACC does not equal the PAC
VT ChemE 1986 • 04/20/24 12:56 PM ET
Sure, it'll survive and here's what it'll look like by 2030 (+- 5 years)
HokieNoVA • 04/21/24 01:50 PM ET
So many Sooth sayers in here tonight. Glad we all now know the ACC's
ancient alien 2018 • 04/22/24 02:33 AM ET
No problem, happy to help.**
HokieNoVA • 04/22/24 09:50 AM ET
Delete SMU and add Liberty**
CrystalCoveHokie • 04/21/24 04:55 PM ET
500,000 downvotes!! You really want that cesspool of hypocrites in the ACC?**
ancient alien 2018 • 04/22/24 02:28 AM ET
The best Liberty can do is get in Conference USA and you want to add them?**
HokiesACC2004 • 04/21/24 10:15 PM ET
You left out VaTech and NCState
VPI 1924 • 04/21/24 03:49 PM ET
It will survive as long as ND wants it to.
Millpoint • 04/21/24 08:49 AM ET
Once FSU/Clemson leave
INSIDE99 • 04/21/24 08:40 PM ET
Agreed, which as long as ironically ND wants to be independent. ND Olympic
Stech • 04/21/24 09:18 AM ET
Honestly......
2hhoop3 • 04/21/24 09:54 AM ET
Amen
Minden Hokie • 04/22/24 09:34 AM ET
Hear! Hear! They have a recognized path out of the conference.
saret • 04/21/24 10:07 AM ET
Careful what you ask for, it looks like they are negotiating
Big12 guy • 04/21/24 11:23 AM ET
Let me guess, you also have "sources" that told you this? **
ancient alien 2018 • 04/22/24 02:31 AM ET
I really don't want them in the ACC anymore.
Atlee Hokie • 04/21/24 03:01 PM ET
I could really care less what FSU and/or Clemson do.
saret • 04/21/24 02:32 PM ET
Agree, well stated saret !**
FLKEYSHOKIE • 04/21/24 05:14 PM ET
Don't let them out at a discount!
EDGEMAN • 04/21/24 03:36 PM ET
ESPN will sweet talk the ACC presidents and FSU and Clemson...
Old Line Hokie • 04/21/24 06:13 PM ET
Dec 3
INSIDE99 • 04/21/24 09:00 PM ET
You may be right, but I hope sincerely you are not.**
saret • 04/21/24 08:26 PM ET
I’m sure the ACC execs have experts telling them how much
Marooned • 04/21/24 07:21 PM ET
It will be alive in some shape or form **
HokiesACC2004 • 04/20/24 07:41 PM ET
Sweet talk with a better media contract? seems that is
Big12 guy • 04/21/24 06:21 PM ET
I think you are incorrect
DrHokie • 04/20/24 07:29 PM ET
It’s true like the B12 w/o Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Nebraska & Missouri
Stech • 04/20/24 10:36 PM ET
B12 picked up decent remnants of the PAC too
Marooned • 04/21/24 07:24 PM ET
When the ACC loses FSU and Clemson, I think they could still survive and
VPI_1998 • 04/20/24 08:07 PM ET
Carolina is key for sure**
Millpoint • 04/21/24 09:25 AM ET
For 🏀 they’re important, but UCONN can fill that gap. Ever been to UNC 🏈
Stech • 04/21/24 01:15 PM ET
That’s true
Millpoint • 04/21/24 02:11 PM ET
True, although NC State has a better football record as of late.**
Stech • 04/21/24 03:57 PM ET
I agree with this 100% While i have yet to visit a stadium in Virginia, I
Big12 guy • 04/21/24 01:41 PM ET
Yeah I was startled except the NC State game, much better than the other 3.**
Stech • 04/21/24 04:00 PM ET
Replacing FSU with South Florida would be number 1 on my list **
HokiesACC2004 • 04/20/24 11:51 PM ET
The PAC turned down $25M a year from ESPN (reported), the B12 ◄
Big12 guy • 04/20/24 02:15 PM ET
ESPN needs 🏀 content outside the Southeast, 🦊 has B1G, B12 & Big East.
Stech • 04/21/24 08:54 AM ET
The current environment discards basketball as the main driver
Big12 guy • 04/21/24 09:47 AM ET
My real question is what is best for VT.
VTCALS72 • 04/20/24 04:00 PM ET
The worst case scenario is being the #4 football conference...
Old Line Hokie • 04/20/24 01:08 PM ET
Losing FSU and Clemson would not move the XII "clearly" ahead of the ACC
VTCALS72 • 04/20/24 01:31 PM ET
If FSU and Clemson bolt. I'd like to see the ACC grab OKST, Kansas, AZ
TDVick • 05/01/24 05:39 AM ET
You lost me at "biggest brands are T Tech and BYU"
Tailgate Guru • 04/23/24 01:20 PM ET
Agree with the basic assessment, but not clear on the TT and BYU
GALOISGROUP • 04/21/24 03:56 AM ET
Not in football **
CrystalCoveHokie • 04/20/24 06:28 PM ET
There are endless ways of trying to predict the fate of The ACC after the
33laszlo99 • 04/20/24 04:00 PM ET
Yes but that misses THE question, what leaves VT in the best position.
VTCALS72 • 04/20/24 04:10 PM ET
VTCAL, you seem to view this as a race between The ACC and The Big 12 for
33laszlo99 • 04/20/24 04:41 PM ET
How did you get that? No you have it totally wrong
VTCALS72 • 04/20/24 05:59 PM ET
You get props for your optimism. I could post some of Tony Altimore's data
33laszlo99 • 04/20/24 08:47 PM ET
You still don't understand
VTCALS72 • 04/20/24 10:15 PM ET
You are either grossly overrating those ACC teams or perhaps you have the
33laszlo99 • 04/20/24 11:06 PM ET
Just looking at avg. football atttendance
Old Line Hokie • 04/20/24 02:36 PM ET
The 4 corners was the game changer. Those markets and programs
Big12 guy • 04/20/24 02:29 PM ET
Is what you just posted "clearly better?"
VTCALS72 • 04/20/24 03:26 PM ET
Duke football lacks the eyeballs.**
IB4TECH • 04/21/24 10:14 AM ET
Wake?
GALOISGROUP • 04/21/24 04:08 AM ET
Talking about Wake under Clawson. Just as good on the field
VTCALS72 • 04/21/24 05:24 PM ET
No, definitely not clearly better, but the B12 doesn't have
Big12 guy • 04/20/24 03:32 PM ET
However
VPI 1924 • 04/20/24 03:23 PM ET
That’s funny
CMU Hokie • 04/21/24 05:31 PM ET
And - they have a U.S. House Representative who says the moon is made of
VPI_1998 • 04/20/24 08:01 PM ET
Ya, but they have never been known to fill their football stadium. **
Big12 guy • 04/20/24 03:29 PM ET