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Basically, NCSU voted to keep the ACC-ESPN contract
That NCSU didn't "flip" their vote because there was never an actual vote on expansion until it passed, and that NCSU's objections to expansion were addressed. Even some horse trading on an AAU support for NCSU from Duke, Pitt, Miami, UVA, Pitt, GT, Stan, Cal, and ND was rumored. Plus SMU coming in for no media money for 7 years was quite the bonus. Also, there was a group of schools against the "success initiative" if it meant that they will get less money than they were currently getting and that the new money from SMU/CAL/Stan should be used for that.
Plus, a lot of lobbying by the founder of ISP (WFU alum), and the former chair of the UNC System Board of Governors (WFU grad/UNC law/UVA MBA).
The ACC needs 14 fulltime members for the ACC-ESPN contract to remain in place, and the article stated that UNC-UVA were the 2 schools likely to join another conference while FSU would go independent, and that adding the 3 schools will guarantee that. If any other schools were to leave, then the next targets would be TCU and WVU in 2030 when the Big XII contract ends.
There was also an appeal to keeping the conference power base in the NC area instead of Atlanta or Chicago.
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Anyone with a sub to Raleigh News & Observer who can fill us in on
-- Femoyer Hokie
Oct 18, 2023 at 10:03 AM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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10/18/23 10:03 AM ET
Report: The ACC May be Eyeing Two Big 12 Teams Down the Road
-- WBGV
Oct 19, 2023 at 12:17 PM ET
WBGV
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10/19/23 12:17 PM ET
I would love to get Okie State. Great program.**
-- TDVick
Nov 08, 2023 at 11:37 AM ET
TDVick
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11/08/23 11:37 AM ET
this guy is monster Big12 homer and posts deluded things like
-- neworleanshoo
Oct 25, 2023 at 09:58 PM ET
neworleanshoo
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10/25/23 09:58 PM ET
The B12 may add UConn for basketball, but there are no football
-- Big12 guy
Oct 23, 2023 at 11:12 AM ET
Big12 guy
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10/23/23 11:12 AM ET
ok I'll take expertise of Mr. Sutton who has been in the business for years
-- Mercury
Oct 20, 2023 at 08:49 AM ET
Mercury
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10/20/23 08:49 AM ET
In time anything could happen
-- MrFantastic!
Oct 20, 2023 at 01:30 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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10/20/23 01:30 AM ET
If there is an academic litmus test options reduce.
-- HOO86
Oct 21, 2023 at 03:57 PM ET
HOO86
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10/21/23 03:57 PM ET
I doubt Big 12 gets along **
-- MrFantastic!
Oct 23, 2023 at 06:04 PM ET
MrFantastic!
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10/23/23 06:04 PM ET
I get the feeling those 3 would have preferred to stay
-- mrcaniac
Oct 23, 2023 at 10:16 PM ET
mrcaniac
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10/23/23 10:16 PM ET
Agree - not likely. Even when the TV contract ends there is still
-- WBGV
Oct 19, 2023 at 01:24 PM ET
WBGV
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10/19/23 01:24 PM ET
I thought the exit fees are negotiable.
-- mrcaniac
Oct 19, 2023 at 04:14 PM ET
mrcaniac
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10/19/23 04:14 PM ET
Basically, NCSU voted to keep the ACC-ESPN contract
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-- mrcaniac
Oct 18, 2023 at 11:00 PM ET
mrcaniac
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10/18/23 11:00 PM ET
very interesting... with that action
-- Mercury
Oct 18, 2023 at 10:16 AM ET
Mercury
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10/18/23 10:16 AM ET
Can you copy and paste and of course give credit?**
-- Stech
Oct 18, 2023 at 04:35 PM ET
Stech
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10/18/23 04:35 PM ET
I find it interesting one of the conversation groups was UNC, UVA, Clemson
-- Nelsonia Hokie
Oct 23, 2023 at 02:44 PM ET
Nelsonia Hokie
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10/23/23 02:44 PM ET
Good to see someone keeping check on UNC.**
-- IB4TECH
Oct 21, 2023 at 11:09 AM ET
IB4TECH
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10/21/23 11:09 AM ET
yep- they want to divide and conquer
-- Vippie1
Oct 19, 2023 at 10:58 AM ET
Vippie1
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10/19/23 10:58 AM ET
I don’t see any school turning down an offer from the B1G or the SEC
-- WBGV
Oct 19, 2023 at 01:55 PM ET
WBGV
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10/19/23 01:55 PM ET
The key point, is UNC Chapel Hill does not have independent operation
-- Mercury
Oct 20, 2023 at 08:53 AM ET
Mercury
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10/20/23 08:53 AM ET
that is why UCLA is paying some punitive damages to Cal
-- Vippie1
Oct 20, 2023 at 11:22 AM ET
Vippie1
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10/20/23 11:22 AM ET
actually the UCLA thing was show to the cal system
-- Mercury
Oct 20, 2023 at 01:33 PM ET
Mercury
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10/20/23 01:33 PM ET
So your feelings are that if the B1G offered
-- WBGV
Oct 19, 2023 at 03:55 PM ET
WBGV
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10/19/23 03:55 PM ET
you live in a very binary world
-- Vippie1
Oct 19, 2023 at 05:09 PM ET
Vippie1
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10/19/23 05:09 PM ET