Technically, the US Government were the ones that pulled out of the JCPOA
The moderates who negotiated the JCPOA did lose power, and the timing wasn’t a coincidence.
I mean, here is the timeline:
-The JCPOA was signed in 2015 by Rouhani, Zarif, and Salehi — the core moderate bloc.
-Iran complied through 2018, confirmed by 15 IAEA reports.
-The U.S. withdrew in May 2018 and reimposed sanctions.
-Iran’s economy collapsed again, and conservatives said, “We told you the U.S. can’t be trusted.”
That's not opinion....that is the actual timeline. Whether one blames the U.S. for that outcome is a matter of interpretation, but the causal chain is straightforward..... the moderates’ entire political argument depended on diplomacy delivering results. When the U.S. broke the deal, their argument died.
As far as buying time until their arsenal was fully developed, I don't see any evidence of the Iranians breaking the JCPOA.
Iran’s enrichment capped at 3.67%.
Stockpile capped at 300 kg.
24/7 IAEA monitoring.
Daily inspector access to Natanz and Fordow.
Zero evidence of diversion or weapons work during the deal period.
As far as the NPT, the entire Middle East nuclear order is built on contradictions
Israel: undeclared nuclear weapons, no inspections, outside the NPT.
Iran: NPT member, inspected, but denied the same enrichment rights Japan and Germany have.
Saudi Arabia: openly says it will match Iran’s capabilities.
U.S. policy: enforce zero enrichment for Iran but tolerate Israel’s arsenal.
As long as that asymmetry exists, every negotiation is built on sand.
Thread Replies (93)
First casualties confirmed overseas from yesterday
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 01, 2026 at 11:27 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/01/26 11:27 AM ET
Wonder if "Al UDeid" got hit...
-- ftsumterhokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 08:35 AM ET
ftsumterhokie
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03/02/26 08:35 AM ET
It did. Pretty hard as well. Some extremely expensive radar systems
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 08:39 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 08:39 AM ET
Thanks for the info... Damn...**
-- ftsumterhokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 01:24 PM ET
ftsumterhokie
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03/02/26 01:24 PM ET
Picture of Before and After in Bahrain
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 09:38 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 09:38 AM ET
Not surprising, given the delivery vehicle...
-- Freddyburg Hokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:45 AM ET
Freddyburg Hokie
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03/02/26 10:45 AM ET
I appreciate your insight on this thread. The Associated Press reported at
-- VTVOICE
Mar 01, 2026 at 06:40 PM ET
VTVOICE
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03/01/26 06:40 PM ET
Hopefully it's not the Shah's son....**
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 01, 2026 at 08:17 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/01/26 08:17 PM ET
There are worse things than a monarch
-- mancunian
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:22 AM ET
mancunian
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03/02/26 10:22 AM ET
Yep ... two wrongs don't make a right. :-)**
-- VTVOICE
Mar 01, 2026 at 08:28 PM ET
VTVOICE
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03/01/26 08:28 PM ET
Last night, current Iranian Govt denied any willingness to negotiate
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 08:01 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 08:01 AM ET
I don't blame them... Why should they negotiate with the US? We are full of
-- NokieHokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 09:10 AM ET
NokieHokie
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03/02/26 09:10 AM ET
Because they are getting crushed. That's why. **
-- ColoVT82
Mar 02, 2026 at 11:25 AM ET
ColoVT82
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03/02/26 11:25 AM ET
I used to do a lot of work at NSA Bahrain. The videos of the strikes were
-- SDHokie
Mar 01, 2026 at 02:00 PM ET
SDHokie
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03/01/26 02:00 PM ET
They used to call it ASU Bahrain, which we nicknamed
-- EDGEMAN
Mar 01, 2026 at 04:52 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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03/01/26 04:52 PM ET
Here is a pic from Erbil a few moments ago ...really bad
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 01, 2026 at 02:19 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/01/26 02:19 PM ET
I don’t have words. So weird to see places I foolishly assumed were safe.
-- SDHokie
Mar 01, 2026 at 02:28 PM ET
SDHokie
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03/01/26 02:28 PM ET
Been to Camp Lemonnier as well..
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 01, 2026 at 02:34 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/01/26 02:34 PM ET
IF you believe the Omanis (and I do), Iran made concessions
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 01, 2026 at 03:44 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/01/26 03:44 PM ET
They were offered low grade uranium for life for their power plants, but...
-- EDGEMAN
Mar 01, 2026 at 04:54 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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03/01/26 04:54 PM ET
Why would they take that deal?
-- Freddyburg Hokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 09:09 AM ET
Freddyburg Hokie
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03/02/26 09:09 AM ET
Yes but more Israel
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 12:36 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 12:36 PM ET
Exactly! Only thing low grade plutonium is good for is power generation**
-- HOKIERIT
Mar 01, 2026 at 07:51 PM ET
HOKIERIT
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03/01/26 07:51 PM ET
And one other thing (long post).. @2hhoop3
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 01, 2026 at 03:58 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/01/26 03:58 PM ET
We will see how it goes, eh?**
-- ColoVT82
Mar 01, 2026 at 08:21 PM ET
ColoVT82
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03/01/26 08:21 PM ET
It's going good in some areas, in other areas, not good at all
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 07:59 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 07:59 AM ET
The newer Iranian missiles are a step ahead of what we've sold so far..
-- ColoVT82
Mar 02, 2026 at 11:21 AM ET
ColoVT82
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03/02/26 11:21 AM ET
Under the least 'permissive' stance via the WPA, we can continue to
-- PhotoHokieNC
Mar 01, 2026 at 04:18 PM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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03/01/26 04:18 PM ET
Haha, I remember that "mere photographer", but I never noted who said it.
-- Coach McGuirk
Mar 01, 2026 at 08:46 PM ET
Coach McGuirk
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03/01/26 08:46 PM ET
It was in the run up to a VT FB game at UNC and
-- PhotoHokieNC
Mar 02, 2026 at 08:12 AM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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03/02/26 08:12 AM ET
The issue with a prolonged conflict is the number of missiles...
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 01, 2026 at 04:24 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/01/26 04:24 PM ET
Why is the WFT in the field?
-- Freddyburg Hokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 09:05 AM ET
Freddyburg Hokie
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03/02/26 09:05 AM ET
Magazine depth was a thing at one time.**
-- ColoVT82
Mar 01, 2026 at 08:23 PM ET
ColoVT82
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03/01/26 08:23 PM ET
What a surprise, eh?**
-- PhotoHokieNC
Mar 01, 2026 at 04:20 PM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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03/01/26 04:20 PM ET
I haven't noticed any lip-buttoning. Everyone who wants to be someone
-- PhotoHokieNC
Mar 01, 2026 at 04:37 PM ET
PhotoHokieNC
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03/01/26 04:37 PM ET
Rumor: F-35s have scored their first air to air kills.
-- EDGEMAN
Mar 01, 2026 at 05:16 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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03/01/26 05:16 PM ET
Kuwaiti ADA (Patriot Batteries) scored their first kills too...
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 08:02 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 08:02 AM ET
Just wait...they usually pick up on my insight later.... **
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 01, 2026 at 04:18 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/01/26 04:18 PM ET
Given your experience and insight........
-- 2hhoop3
Mar 02, 2026 at 09:55 AM ET
2hhoop3
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03/02/26 09:55 AM ET
If I were President...
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:08 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 10:08 AM ET
Correct. Can’t ignore what Iran or any sponsor of terror says or believes**
-- Brewing_Hokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 11:22 AM ET
Brewing_Hokie
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03/02/26 11:22 AM ET
When was the last time Iran really threatened Israel and the USA?
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:50 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 10:50 AM ET
They were trying to reconstitute. Have a fair pile of 20% Enriched. And
-- ColoVT82
Mar 02, 2026 at 11:30 AM ET
ColoVT82
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03/02/26 11:30 AM ET
Under the JCPOA...
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 11:55 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 11:55 AM ET
I don't ignore their proxy support and funding...
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 11:25 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 11:25 AM ET
Using that example doesn't absolve Iran at all
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 11:52 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 11:52 AM ET
I do not think you can point.....
-- 2hhoop3
Mar 02, 2026 at 12:53 PM ET
2hhoop3
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03/02/26 12:53 PM ET
An interesting story about proxies in the Middle East
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 01:06 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 01:06 PM ET
There are actual moderates in Iran...**
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 01:00 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 01:00 PM ET
Yes, and many were just massacred...**
-- hokiehunter07
Mar 03, 2026 at 01:56 PM ET
hokiehunter07
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03/03/26 01:56 PM ET
The people who made the JCPOA possible weren’t “mystery moderates...
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 01:12 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 01:12 PM ET
Technically, the US Government were the ones that pulled out of the JCPOA
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-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 01:46 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 01:46 PM ET
"I saw no evidence that they did not comply with the JCPOA."
-- Freddyburg Hokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:52 AM ET
Freddyburg Hokie
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03/02/26 10:52 AM ET
I'm a big believer in the advice of the Founders
-- mancunian
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:25 AM ET
mancunian
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03/02/26 10:25 AM ET
Perfectly stated
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:26 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 10:26 AM ET
BINGO! You nailed it! We allow Israel to dictate to us foreigh and domestic
-- NokieHokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:13 AM ET
NokieHokie
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03/02/26 10:13 AM ET
My views don't make me very popular in some circles these days... **
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:29 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 10:29 AM ET
Let's just say the USA's track record of good faith negotiations is far
-- NokieHokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 09:07 AM ET
NokieHokie
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03/02/26 09:07 AM ET
You are going to have to......
-- 2hhoop3
Mar 02, 2026 at 09:21 AM ET
2hhoop3
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03/02/26 09:21 AM ET
How about using negotiations as a reason to draw someone to a location? We
-- NokieHokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 09:26 AM ET
NokieHokie
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03/02/26 09:26 AM ET
You're going to need a lot.....
-- 2hhoop3
Mar 02, 2026 at 09:36 AM ET
2hhoop3
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03/02/26 09:36 AM ET
Can you support your claims that Iran doesn't have a good faith track
-- NokieHokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:06 AM ET
NokieHokie
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03/02/26 10:06 AM ET
See my response to AH96 above......
-- 2hhoop3
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:47 AM ET
2hhoop3
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03/02/26 10:47 AM ET
See my post above
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 10:09 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 10:09 AM ET
I was just a civil engineer working on utilities systems.
-- SDHokie
Mar 01, 2026 at 02:49 PM ET
SDHokie
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03/01/26 02:49 PM ET
I don't think IRGC is going to be calm after the Ayatollah's death**
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 01, 2026 at 02:56 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/01/26 02:56 PM ET
Whoever takes his place will have a target on his head.
-- EDGEMAN
Mar 01, 2026 at 04:59 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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03/01/26 04:59 PM ET
I was just there in September so recognized everything as well..**
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 01, 2026 at 02:14 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/01/26 02:14 PM ET
My phone is ringing quite a bit right now.. heard jets over Dubai 2 min ago
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 01, 2026 at 01:37 PM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/01/26 01:37 PM ET
Good friends spouse on one of the carriers. Probably as safe as a place to
-- Hokebury
Mar 01, 2026 at 01:24 PM ET
Hokebury
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03/01/26 01:24 PM ET
a lot of sophisticated electronics, time to give a reality test I guess...**
-- `lag
Mar 01, 2026 at 01:49 PM ET
`lag
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03/01/26 01:49 PM ET
That makes more sense, I was reading the first one
-- `lag
Mar 02, 2026 at 07:15 AM ET
`lag
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03/02/26 07:15 AM ET
Iran has been helping Russia with their drones in Ukraine...
-- Freddyburg Hokie
Mar 02, 2026 at 09:12 AM ET
Freddyburg Hokie
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03/02/26 09:12 AM ET
One of those would never make it to a CVN
-- EDGEMAN
Mar 02, 2026 at 07:59 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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03/02/26 07:59 AM ET
Did you see the story where we took a downed Iranian suicide drone and...
-- EDGEMAN
Mar 01, 2026 at 05:02 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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03/01/26 05:02 PM ET
Yes...the LUCAS drones
-- AirborneHokie96
Mar 02, 2026 at 08:00 AM ET
AirborneHokie96
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03/02/26 08:00 AM ET