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fordham OP
Sep 25, 2025 at 11:35 AM ET
Indiana player granted more years to play
Due to being in jr college before. So you can play as long as you want to in college. That 35 year old qb will be fun and good luck to HS players. No room for you!!! ** Edited by fordham at 9/25/2025, 11:36:11 AM

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likehokies
10mo
How are the courts even involved?
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fordham OP
10mo
That’s what ya do if ya don’t like a rule or someone
Disagrees with ya
bigbadbird bigbadbird
10mo
maybe he's working on his PHD thesis and needs more time
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fordham OP
10mo
His salary is much better than zero from the nfl and
$30 k selling cars
Beerman Beerman
10mo
Not exactly
The NCAA had previously granted a blanket one additional year to a cohort of JUCOs (re: Pavia ruling), but denied this particular player's request. The NCAA is trying to have it both ways, where JUCO time doesn't count towards your 4 years to play for real (Pavia) but does count towards your 5 years of eligibility. This lawsuit results says that's no bueno. I expect that we're going to a place where JUCO time just doesn't count. Period. That would shift some level of player from NCAA to JUCO, sure. But that already happens with academically ineligible kids anyway. It will just be some more of them. JUCOs are typically only 2-3 year programs, so your sky-is-falling 35 year old collegiate player isn't going to be much of a thing. More likely you'll end up with more 25-26 aged college seniors who were not good enough to go NFL sooner. ** Edited by Beerman at 9/25/2025, 12:25:12 PM ** Edited by Beerman at 9/25/2025, 12:30:11 PM
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Enter Sandman
10mo
Any idea if this applies to all sports and all levels of the NCAA?
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fordham OP
10mo
I understand but it seems there are zero rules
But if you disagree at all ya go to court and get what ya want. Keep in mind that almost all players will never sniff the nfl so human nature says they will stay in college as long as possible as the pay to play is more than they make selling cars. The house of cards is folding. Oh well
Beerman Beerman
10mo
Also ...
...the guys who earn the money in college are, generally speaking, the ones who are good enough for the NFL. Or at least expected to be. I don't know what sort of NIL paychecks there are going to be for a guy who wants to play 3 years in JUCO and then 5 years in the NCAA, all the while not actually being any sort of star player.
Beerman Beerman
10mo
There's no money in JUCO
The central premise of Pavia's lawsuit was that there were no NIL opportunities in JUCO, so counting those years against his NCAA eligibility was an unfair restraint of trade. There's nothing illegal about amateur athletics. If the NCAA and D1 institutions were willing to give up the income stream on their end, they could set all the rules the wanted to. They just can't have it both ways.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
10mo
While I get the premise and I don't think it is necessary wrong on the
surface, I have seen ESPN+ broadcast JUCO and even community college games in football, basketball, and I think 1 other sport during the regular season. Now that may not equate to NIL opportunities for the players. It does make me wonder where that line would be because I am assuming someone is benefiting some way from the broadcast. Otherwise, why include it on a platform as far reaching as ESPN+?
reestuart reestuart
10mo
ESPN is the only one benefitting from televised JUCO games. At least
money-wise. I guess it gives whatever schools playing some publicity, but I doubt they get much of anything in payments.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
10mo
You are probably right and I guess publicity would qualify as consideration
in a court of law.
Beerman Beerman
10mo
I've seen HS games be broadcast
Since we're all doing this stupid dance where we let players profit from endorsements (NIL) but are pretending they aren't being paid to play, the market matters. As of yet there isn't much of a market at the JUCO or HS level. Surely this will change. There isn't anything more quintessentially American than some rich idiot throwing his money around in an effort to achieve the vicarious glory of supporting his sportsball team. If it hasn't happened in HS yet, it will soon.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
10mo
FWIW when Ralph Sampson was in HS, I believe several local business owners
wanted to use him in their local commercials. I was too young to know if he ended up doing the local commercials or not and whether he got "paid" for them. The reason I mention it is because the NIL situation for DII, DIII, NAIA DI, and NAIA DII is a lot more localized than what we are currently seeing at the DI level (including DI-FCS for football). I would expect JUCO and Comm. College would be in the same boat.
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Happy Dog
10mo
Not counting JUCO going to benefit European and other foreign athletes
In other sports like swimming and water polo (especially water polo), you have a lot of European athletes go to the JUCO (or even D2) route if they can't qualify due to not meeting curriculum or other requirements. My son had several Serbian teammates in this situation.
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RJHokie
10mo
Yep, treating JUCO like a prep high school.