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No_Limit_Hokie
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My overall summation, of this whole matter...

WestyHokie started this thread referring to someone's greatest teams of all time list. The link to that list, he titled, 'No love for 99 Hokies'. You stated, in response to that original post: "99 Hokies shouldn’t be in the conversation. Runner up doesn’t get you on the greatest team ranking." I pointed out that ESPN had at least three teams in the Top 40 of their Top 150, teams that were not named National Champion. Now, this does not mean that you support ESPN's list. I do not wish to misrepresent what you say. I pointed out that 2012 Mount Union, a Division 3 team, made the list. I did then question that, if that team made the list, do people really think they would be favored over 1999 Virginia Tech? You made an excuse for Mount Union. Okay, your opinion. Hard for me to think they would be favored against the 1999 Hokies, but to each their own. Using your criteria, should 1979 USC, 1971 Oklahoma, and 1983 Nebraska (as well as any other teams that did not win it all) not make that list? If you think so, fine. As long as you are consistent. But I ask you... much like the Playoff Committee this season, "best instead of most deserving," would you favor 1999 Virginia Tech over 2012 Mount Union, see it as a coin toss, or do you believe 2012 Mount Union would be favored? If you are fine with Mount Union, a Division 3 team making the list, I do not see how the 1999 Hokies would not be in the conversation, even if ultimately not chosen for such a list. You seem to intimate that only Tech fans would think that their school, not having won a National Championship, might somehow think that their team could rank somewhere in the greatest ___ number of teams ever. I guess 1979 USC, 1971 Oklahoma, and 1983 Nebraska, among others, none of their schools would make such a claim. Only Virginia Tech, right? Where would I rank 1999 Virginia Tech, if I were making a list? I do not know. But if ESPN (not to assume that they are right) chooses a Mount Union team on the list of Top 150, it is not totally out of reason to *consider* 1999 VT. ** Edited by No_Limit_Hokie at 12/15/2023, 5:28:32 PM
Posted: 12/15/2023 at 05:22 PM ET
(In response to this post by GreenvilleVT)

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Klatt picked 2001 Miami team as best in college football history
WestyHokie • 12/15/23 09:43 AM ET
He is confused - “most NFL talent” and “best team” are not the same thing.
NoHuddle • 12/15/23 08:44 PM ET
Did he confer with Herbstreit first?**
marcbvtgm • 12/15/23 06:39 PM ET
Can't argue with the 01 Canes. UF 08 was too low. That USC 04 team was
jecvtmgr • 12/15/23 03:11 PM ET
Yeah, I think '05 USC beats Texas 6 or 7 times out of 10. Maybe more.
reestuart • 12/15/23 04:12 PM ET
The 2001 Canes roster reads like an NFL Hall of Fame lineup
Zanderhokie • 12/15/23 03:28 PM ET
And if MV1 had stuck around another year...
EDGEMAN • 12/15/23 03:47 PM ET
Joel Klatt? Really have never heard of him.
likehokies • 12/15/23 03:10 PM ET
Klatt is as good as there is at calling games as an analyst.**
reestuart • 12/15/23 04:38 PM ET
87 and 89 Miami were better. 86 MIami the best team to never win a title. **
Bruno • 12/15/23 01:30 PM ET
2005 Texas. LOL!**
Bruno • 12/15/23 01:28 PM ET
That was the 4 interceptions. **
OneStarHokie • 12/15/23 01:06 PM ET
Yes but also the dropped two-point conversion that would have tied the game**
MP4VT2004 • 12/15/23 01:09 PM ET
Yes. That's the game we stormed back and almost tied Miami in Lane Stadium
Zanderhokie • 12/15/23 10:42 AM ET
The punt-block TD was the loudest moment in Lane Stadium history, by far**
Technik • 12/15/23 10:46 AM ET
Agree. Unreal.**
Fatman • 12/16/23 09:37 AM ET
My DAD was a Mechanical Engineer and he grab my arm and screamed in my ear
Shbolf • 12/15/23 10:57 PM ET
Yes, yes, 👍 **
Slider!22 • 12/15/23 01:15 PM ET
By far my favorite Lane Stadium moment, even though VT lost.
MP4VT2004 • 12/15/23 01:10 PM ET
Ditto**
SarahVTHokie24 • 12/15/23 01:40 PM ET
Eric Green!**
crazylane • 12/15/23 11:49 AM ET
That seismograph should be displayed in Merryman. Is it?**
TomTurkey • 12/15/23 11:25 AM ET
Need a helmet with that printed on it for an "Earthquake Effect" game.
MP4VT2004 • 12/15/23 02:14 PM ET
Would make great display helmet, though, as those should be relegated.**
TomTurkey • 12/15/23 02:34 PM ET
that's the only time I remember the noise actually hurting my ears.**
reestuart • 12/15/23 11:21 AM ET
100%. I was there. The decibels actually caused pain for a second.
Harrisburg Hokie • 12/15/23 11:12 AM ET
Yes. That was other worldly!**
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 11:03 AM ET
Wasn't there for that one but..
summervillehokie • 12/15/23 10:51 AM ET
Uber said the Nebraska fan saying, "NOOOOOO!!!!!" as the still open Coale..
TomTurkey • 12/15/23 02:41 PM ET
Totally agree. I was there and can 100% vouch for this.**
Zanderhokie • 12/15/23 10:48 AM ET
Same!**
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 11:03 AM ET
I'll take 1995 Nebraska and give the field.**
reestuart • 12/15/23 10:22 AM ET
Easily the best ever
Coattail Hokie • 12/15/23 11:01 AM ET
Agree totally ***
sacramento hokie • 12/15/23 06:55 PM ET
Yes.**
Bruno • 12/15/23 01:28 PM ET
That UF team they destroyed won all of their games by 11 or more.**
reestuart • 12/15/23 11:37 AM ET
Average score: 53.1-14.5**
Pylons • 12/15/23 11:30 AM ET
No doubt, the '95 Huskers won every game by at least 14 points...
BROman Hokie • 12/15/23 10:53 AM ET
They ( Miami) had a little more at the skill position
crazylane • 12/15/23 01:24 PM ET
Yeah, I've never seen any team dominate like that Nebraska team.
reestuart • 12/15/23 11:20 AM ET
Lead by the King of Pain- Dr Tom Osborne***
sacramento hokie • 12/15/23 11:41 AM ET
pain is a good way to describe what they did to their opponents.
reestuart • 12/15/23 01:06 PM ET
99 Hokies shouldn’t be in the conversation.
GreenvilleVT • 12/15/23 09:55 AM ET
Or the CFP. ; )**
IB4TECH • 12/15/23 01:47 PM ET
So these teams on the ESPN Top 150 list should not be there...
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 12:23 PM ET
I often wonder if having Ricky Hall would have made the difference.
Tanman • 12/15/23 11:16 AM ET
Not likely that by itself
VB Hokie • 12/15/23 06:11 PM ET
Some food for thought: Sham might be the 2nd best race horse of all time...
BROman Hokie • 12/15/23 10:58 AM ET
Except he took a Sham at Belmont**
crazylane • 12/15/23 04:02 PM ET
Sham would have won every other Kentucky Derby...'cept against Big Red**
Tuckahokie • 12/15/23 12:01 PM ET
It’s a sham no one remembers him. **
GreenvilleVT • 12/15/23 11:59 AM ET
Good one!**
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 12:25 PM ET
Michael Vick was 1999 college football.**
MikeVT85 • 12/15/23 10:42 AM ET
Hokies Will Never Have Player Like MV!**
battmanvt • 12/15/23 12:16 PM ET
I agree. He was one of the best players on my all time list. **
GreenvilleVT • 12/15/23 12:00 PM ET
Actually, if you look at my post below, that is false**
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 10:37 AM ET
The best team isn’t always the champion, didn’t the playoff teach that?
WestyHokie • 12/15/23 10:00 AM ET
I loved that '99 VT team, but the depth would hold them back against the
reestuart • 12/15/23 11:23 AM ET
What are you talking about? Games went 3Q's that season. We won!! 😉
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 12:02 PM ET
Excellent point!!!**
reestuart • 12/15/23 01:03 PM ET
True within a season, but I'd say to be the best team *ever*,
Pylons • 12/15/23 10:40 AM ET
This past Spring, perhaps the wildest Big Dance overall illustrated this
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 10:12 AM ET
If you’re waiting for the 1999 Hokies to be named in a ranking of the
GreenvilleVT • 12/15/23 10:08 AM ET
ESPN's list...
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 10:28 AM ET
Mount Union was dominant.
GreenvilleVT • 12/15/23 12:05 PM ET
The Ohio state team that lost to the 2001 Miami team
GreenvilleVT • 12/15/23 12:03 PM ET
Ohio State? Regular Season maybe? Miami beat Nebraska in 2001**
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 12:05 PM ET
Good catch. My bad.
GreenvilleVT • 12/15/23 12:08 PM ET
2001 Nebraska got clobbered by Colorado 62-36 before clobbered by Miami
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 12:11 PM ET
Then there might be a debate if there is every a
GreenvilleVT • 12/15/23 12:12 PM ET
So, you rate a Division III Champ as automatically better than FBS 2nd?**
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 12:13 PM ET
They were more dominant in the league, division and time they played.
GreenvilleVT • 12/15/23 12:21 PM ET
"...runner-up FBS team doesn’t make the list for any of them unless they.."
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 12:30 PM ET
I agree. No school with a team that finished 2nd would claim
GreenvilleVT • 12/15/23 02:18 PM ET
False.**
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 02:35 PM ET
You can go to your grave believing that the 1999
GreenvilleVT • 12/15/23 04:20 PM ET
My overall summation, of this whole matter... ◄
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 05:22 PM ET
That’s way to much to read given
GreenvilleVT • 12/15/23 05:29 PM ET
See my other post just now**
No_Limit_Hokie • 12/15/23 12:24 PM ET