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AirborneHokie96
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IU and VT are two very different situations and environments

I pull for Indiana because my oldest graduated there (and got a fantastic degree there) and my next oldest will graduate next year in the same software engineering program. That is despite my wife having one of her degrees from Purdue. That being said, IU and VT are two very different situations and IU is a program that is able to play in the "Moneyball" era of college football while VT isn't. IU has been well funded for years and has the B10 check coming in year in, year out. They used that money 10 years ago to upgrade their facilities and to build the infrastructure to take this step. Unlike VT, they aren't spending money paying for infrastructure from 10-15 years ago. In addition to having a very robust athletic revenue stream (B10 will be $70M/year), they have a huge donor base that is funding the NIL game. I hear that the collectives last year was about $14M while I would imagine that it will be higher moving forward. They also have a lot more big money donors that are constantly putting money into the program and fantastic merchandising/corporate sponsor deals. Unlike VT, their spending is sustainable. VT is gambling on the dream that there will be some sort of major change in 3-5 years which will bail them out of the financial expenses committed to spend now and in the future. It's a very high risk with a small chance of success strategy and one where the program really doesn't control its own destiny unless it pulls off a miracle of 2-5 national championships. That being said, despite all of the record donor money, taxing the students and deferring debt payments, it's still not going to be enough. Again...two different situations. One is sustainable and the other is desperation.
Posted: 01/10/2026 at 12:03 AM ET
(In response to this post by VTMONEY94)

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It's gonna be wild when Miami beats IU in the championship.**
Hokie Rebel • 01/09/26 11:15 PM ET
Would love it!
KrazyVTfan • 01/10/26 10:22 AM ET
Ohio St. is the one common opponent and Miami had a more impressive win.
Hokie Rebel • 01/10/26 10:33 PM ET
I hope Indiana beats Miami by so many points that
lazarus1 • 01/10/26 12:22 AM ET
I hope they beat them by more than that! I despise Miami.**
Tech76G • 01/10/26 06:28 AM ET
No way**
TboneParkerVT • 01/10/26 12:10 AM ET
Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoosiers!**
AirborneHokie96 • 01/09/26 11:23 PM ET
I did not realize how bad of a program Indiana has been. Money does buy
VTMONEY94 • 01/09/26 11:31 PM ET
IU and VT are two very different situations and environments ◄
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 12:03 AM ET
When IU loses their head coach.
VPI 1924 • 01/10/26 11:13 AM ET
I don't know Indiana like you do
crazylane • 01/10/26 10:14 AM ET
Basketball team has had terrible coaches at Indiana **
OrlandoHokie • 01/10/26 12:17 PM ET
Their stadium isn’t really -that- small. 52+ capacity, but had 4 crowds
reestuart • 01/10/26 11:07 AM ET
I looked it up
crazylane • 01/10/26 12:24 PM ET
Bull****. They are all *****s of the system and you know it. Just because
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 12:14 AM ET
Wow.**
BMoreHokie • 01/10/26 01:14 AM ET
IU has a lot more money than VT and it's sustainable
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 12:26 AM ET
Still not enough. **
VPI 1924 • 01/10/26 11:15 AM ET
We have not taped into our giving because Whit is a compete failure. I am
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 12:32 AM ET
What is the status on Babcock?
RiverVT • 01/10/26 10:31 AM ET
From what I’ve heard he’s running around trying to keep track
RJHokie • 01/10/26 10:53 AM ET
Thanks for sharing **
RiverVT • 01/10/26 11:07 AM ET
IU is a founding member of the B10 ...they weren't getting kicked out
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 12:36 AM ET
They have obviously, just like Duke, Vandy, etc., have rode the coattails
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 12:39 AM ET
Coattails
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 12:57 AM ET
I was being hooish on the academic rating. Calm down Rama, I am
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 01:00 AM ET
There is no scenario where the Big Ten would have ever in a million years
reestuart • 01/10/26 12:44 AM ET
Indiana University has won 25 NCAA team national championships
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 12:59 AM ET
I hope they get it. **
reestuart • 01/10/26 01:04 AM ET
My Purdue grad wife was pulling for them tonight.
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 01:05 AM ET
I understand that. Same with Duke and BC or whoever. My point is, those
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 12:46 AM ET
Even during bad football years
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 01:04 AM ET
And you know AAU is a complete farce. The criteria is all over the place.
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 01:06 AM ET
Somewhat like a good old boys club. They decide who they want to join ....
Atlee Hokie • 01/10/26 11:48 AM ET
But its something the B10 values highly**
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 01:07 AM ET
I don't want to be in the B10 but I do think we will get AAU status in due
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 01:11 AM ET
IU has almost 4X the living alumni VT does. They also have billionaires
reestuart • 01/10/26 12:23 AM ET
In 2024, the gap between the schools was $48M in Athletic Department $$$
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 12:32 AM ET
Yep, and the disparity will only grow. **
reestuart • 01/10/26 12:33 AM ET
And, until now, they have done zip. We have not tapped into the alumni
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 12:26 AM ET
Who are the alumni who will make up the difference in conference revenue?
reestuart • 01/10/26 12:32 AM ET
Well, we finally got serious too. The plan is 3-4 years to get into
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 12:35 AM ET
Life raft (Reality Check Edition)
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 12:44 AM ET
I am not sure what is not understood. This "life raft" is exactly the
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 12:49 AM ET
They may have rolled the dice but the game is undetermined
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 01:08 AM ET
Again, If they figure out they can make a $1 they will expand**
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 01:10 AM ET
Yes. VT got serious. But VT doesn’t have that kind of money. Not close. **
reestuart • 01/10/26 12:39 AM ET
This has to do with the next 3-4 years. That is our goal**
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 12:41 AM ET
It needs to pay off immediately, or could be trouble. **
reestuart • 01/10/26 12:45 AM ET
It's desperation....
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 01:07 AM ET
I am sure you understand things change. Business, life, etc. Everyone
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 01:09 AM ET
But with the current B10 deal, they are adding $1 to the bottom line
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 01:11 AM ET
I understand that. Do you not think the environment will change? Of
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 01:14 AM ET
I know a few folks in B10 athletic departments
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 01:44 AM ET
The IU have done a lot over the years....
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 12:31 AM ET
I don’t think that’s what happened here. Indiana didn’t buy wins. **
HokieCRNA • 01/09/26 11:38 PM ET
They had the financial backing under Tom Allen
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 12:05 AM ET
They are spending plenty of money.....
VTMONEY94 • 01/09/26 11:44 PM ET
I just mean that he didn’t overspend on a bunch of big names..
HokieCRNA • 01/10/26 07:59 PM ET
Tom Allen was making $4.9M in 2021...more than VT was paying Pry
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 12:13 AM ET
Nope. Don't fly. Good luck sustaining that without making a mockery of
VTMONEY94 • 01/10/26 12:16 AM ET
They have been sustaining that for years thanks to the B10 and better
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 12:28 AM ET
Indiana lives on the transfer portal. They can't recruit HS players.
carhokies • 01/10/26 12:06 AM ET
It is if you know what you are doing. Surratt was a zero star. Mendoza
reestuart • 01/10/26 12:37 AM ET
Cignetti values productivity now **
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 01:09 AM ET
Outside of the 2 transfers from Notre Dame, 8 of their 10 OL were HS
AirborneHokie96 • 01/10/26 12:15 AM ET