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MontgomeryTexasHokie
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Should have been clearer with this

Intent was “more recent”. Switzer and Johnson won their Super Bowls in the 90’s, three decades ago. Pete Carroll was fired at NYJ before rehabbing at USC. Eventually fired in Seattle and doing poorly in Vegas. Yes - all eventually get fired. My point was the more recent history of college coaches going to the NFL is not good. Not at all. It seems to me the better head coaches in the NFL come up through the ranks in the NFL, as the last two offensive co-ordinates for the Tampa Bay Bucs are head coaches at Carolina and Jacksonville and doing well (I’m a Bucs fan). Todd Bowels the head coach had a similar path. Dan Campbell with the Lions wasn’t a college head coach, nor Bowels. James Franklin is not a good fit for any NFL team. He might not come to VT, but he’s not going to the Giants or other vacancy. Could have been clearer - I was not. Harbough at LAC the outlier but even he, like Carroll, was in the NFL prior to college titles. MTH
Posted: 11/11/2025 at 08:36 AM ET
(In response to this post by Pride_and_Joy)

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Another job opening - NYG - bet Franklin is looking..........**
The_VT_Rock • 11/10/25 12:46 PM ET
Another job opening with no one but VT apparently interested in Franklin**
marcbvtgm • 11/10/25 04:44 PM ET
We know who you don’t want. Who is your pick? **
justolerable • 11/10/25 10:38 PM ET
Honestly I hope it's somebody not even on anybody's radar. Buzz-like.
marcbvtgm • 11/11/25 09:14 AM ET
Buzz wasn't under the radar.
CPVT3 • 11/12/25 12:26 AM ET
I thought you needed to be really smart to get one of those jobs.**
jdkhokie • 11/10/25 02:46 PM ET
NYG may luck themselves into a top HC b/c of Dart, but that FO is a mess.
VTDante • 11/10/25 02:23 PM ET
i'd be more worried about Bill -> NYG and Franklin -> UNC than that.**
vivitron73 • 11/10/25 02:11 PM ET
Bill is cooked, for good. I'm laughing if anyone ever takes that risk even
BG Hokie • 11/10/25 02:44 PM ET
I think almost everyone realizes by now ... Brady made Belicheck
VTCS2001 • 11/11/25 12:14 PM ET
I don't disagree, but he's more likely than Franklin**
vivitron73 • 11/10/25 03:29 PM ET
Agreed, Belichick is much more likely to work out in NYC than Chapel Hill.**
MP4VT2004 • 11/10/25 09:19 PM ET
He may look but they won’t be interested. Big Game James couldn’t hack…
Hokiefied • 11/10/25 01:51 PM ET
No idea, but the success rate for College HC's making this move is not good
MontgomeryTexasHokie • 11/10/25 01:03 PM ET
Pete Carroll, JIm Harbaught, Jimmy Johnson, and Barry Switzer all had
Pride_and_Joy • 11/10/25 04:13 PM ET
Ok, now discuss the ones who didn't **
HokiesACC2004 • 11/12/25 03:22 AM ET
Sure. As soon as you acknowkedge that most coaches fail,
Pride_and_Joy • 11/12/25 07:22 AM ET
Switzer was a pawn in the JJ wars
Planner_Hokie • 11/11/25 07:03 PM ET
Should have been clearer with this ◄
MontgomeryTexasHokie • 11/11/25 08:36 AM ET
Bowels was fired as a head coach once before, wasn't he?
Pride_and_Joy • 11/11/25 09:36 AM ET
Holtz, Spurrier, Petrino, Erickson, Saban, Meyer, Kelly, Rhule, etc didn't
marcbvtgm • 11/10/25 04:59 PM ET
Jimmy Johnson
crazylane • 11/10/25 03:28 PM ET
The success rate for any high level HC (pro or semi-) is not good. Period.**
Beerman • 11/10/25 02:40 PM ET
Yes, there is a base rate issue to consider here, for sure. **
Pride_and_Joy • 11/10/25 04:13 PM ET
The only coach who was/is truly elite at both levels is Jim Harbaugh**
NOFX • 11/10/25 02:27 PM ET
Ummm, Pete Carroll was pretty darn good at both levels.**
marcbvtgm • 11/10/25 05:01 PM ET
no jimmy johnson?**
Windows NT • 11/10/25 03:00 PM ET
Ehhh he's close - only did it for a few years in the NFL with a loaded team
NOFX • 11/10/25 03:05 PM ET
Ehhh, incorrect.**
marcbvtgm • 11/10/25 05:00 PM ET
he rebuilt the cowboys from scratch. 1-15 first yr
Windows NT • 11/10/25 03:39 PM ET
He built those loaded teams
crazylane • 11/10/25 03:31 PM ET
I'll add Urban Meyer to your list, he was absolutely awful in the NFL.**
TekkNerd • 11/10/25 01:20 PM ET
didn't Pete win a SB with seattle?
Windows NT • 11/10/25 01:13 PM ET
Apologies - not trying to start an argument... but I did only include
MontgomeryTexasHokie • 11/10/25 02:07 PM ET
crazy what stats people leave out to make a point! **
VaPoly07 • 11/10/25 01:41 PM ET
Don't forget Jimmy Johnson.**
reestuart • 11/10/25 01:21 PM ET
and chucky Gruden!**
Windows NT • 11/10/25 01:24 PM ET