VT and IPTAY are very similar and Clemson has relied ore on big corporate givers than the past. The IPTAY is more the small time 25-100 dollar givers and yeah thats lot, for some folks, but for clemson they need alot of contributors to even make a dent. (and these 'avg' folks are the same demographic as others on message boards. VT Hokie Club is the same, In ACC, actually VT contributors from the Hokie club is right behind clemson. The Big difference is schools like UNC GT, Duke and UVA dont have the mass contributors the big corporate supporters can right one check for a million and dont miss it, and that is equivalent of hte hard work to even get 10,000 100 contributors VT and WHIT is HORRIBLE in reaching out in the mid Atlantic area to corporate agencies, to solicit rights, investment in the brand, he don't know that area, he really cant talk effectively to that group and he's has very limited understanding of branding and maximizing value in naming rights. THat's where the money is (funny Pry is actually better in this world)