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Chris Coleman
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What I've heard about his feelings of the state...

Is that he thinks the organizational body (I.E. VHSL) is inferior to the other states he's recruited like PA, MD, and probably NC. Of course he can't say that publicly because he's the head coach of an in-state school, but I've heard that's how he feels about the situation. It's going to be a year-by-year thing. This year we're taking a lot of in-state guys, but last year I think we only took five.
Posted: 06/28/2024 at 10:37 AM ET
(In response to this post by marcbvtgm)

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FUENTE , Appology!
Hecklin • 06/25/24 10:31 AM ET
He's a good OC and Group of Coach but was over his head as HC here **
VaTechHokiesACC • 06/28/24 03:07 AM ET
Crazy how things sometimes play out. We thought we hit the lottery with Fu
AirForceHokie77 • 06/26/24 10:02 PM ET
Everything looked great with the hire
VaTechHokiesACC • 06/28/24 03:08 AM ET
Any coach immediately hired to follow after a legend usually fails
GOHOKEE • 06/27/24 09:07 AM ET
No problem. Good post. Thanks**
AirForceHokie77 • 06/29/24 10:48 AM ET
I think Fuente is a decent person and a good coach...
BuffaloTraceHokie • 06/26/24 07:50 PM ET
In his defense, his NIL program
HokieKick`nBack • 06/26/24 06:08 PM ET
I read below where Fu would have succeeded..
VPI63 • 06/26/24 03:56 PM ET
Haha...uhh...he didn't get the buyout until after he left.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/27/24 02:16 PM ET
He took the cut to get paid up front …
VPI63 • 06/28/24 05:42 AM ET
^^ Selective memory. Remember shot across the bow? Fans actually were ok
hokiepro • 06/29/24 09:50 AM ET
Why don’t you and Chris … and all the other FU apologists ..
VPI63 • 06/29/24 08:09 PM ET
Quite the hyperbole
hokiepro • 06/29/24 09:02 PM ET
Well, what I’m hearing is that he is FU the visionary..
VPI63 • 06/29/24 09:33 PM ET
We don’t need to “rehabilitate him”
hokiepro • 06/30/24 12:09 AM ET
Actually, he did threaten to leave.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/28/24 10:32 AM ET
It's sad Whit had to be scared. Proactive is always better than reactive.**
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 10:34 AM ET
Hindsight is 20/20, also**
TomTurkey • 06/28/24 11:40 AM ET
Hindsight was not needed. Proactive benchmarking should always be occurring**
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 11:43 AM ET
Gotta know what to do. He guessed wrongly about status quo.**
TomTurkey • 06/28/24 11:46 AM ET
Status quo should never be an option.**
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 11:47 AM ET
Understand I'm not defending him but his decisions count, not mine.**
TomTurkey • 06/28/24 12:22 PM ET
They definitely count. Just many times not in good ways.**
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 12:26 PM ET
Results matter**
TomTurkey • 06/28/24 12:32 PM ET
And? Are you implying his football results have been good?**
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 12:52 PM ET
No, they have consequences. Who's your choice to replace and get it done?**
TomTurkey • 06/28/24 01:14 PM ET
I don't have one.**
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 01:31 PM ET
He didn’t have to do? Excuse me?
Planner_Hokie • 06/28/24 01:23 AM ET
Sane people don’t allow their kids to bully a head coach’s kids
hokiepro • 06/29/24 09:54 AM ET
LOL. Of course he didn't have to settle. Why would he? VT had no grounds
reestuart • 06/28/24 08:03 AM ET
Wrong
Planner_Hokie • 06/28/24 10:15 AM ET
No, that's not how it worked.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/28/24 10:34 AM ET
Was Whit lying then when he said Fu was offered to finish the season? IIRC
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 10:36 AM ET
what would lead you to ask that question? the scenario sounds exactly like
GusDaMan • 06/28/24 10:42 AM ET
CC said he didn't quit. Sounds like he quit to me.**
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 10:45 AM ET
ah. I would agree with that interpretation, though "quit" sounds a bit
GusDaMan • 06/28/24 10:51 AM ET
He didn't quit the job he was getting fired. But he did quit on his players
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 10:54 AM ET
I'm not sure.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/28/24 10:39 AM ET
Thanks. I don't even blame Fu for it. But if he truly was given the option
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 10:42 AM ET
Meh...if you got fired from your job today...
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/28/24 11:08 AM ET
Actually no, most people or at least most rational people
Planner_Hokie • 06/28/24 01:41 PM ET
Another reason he left when he did was for his kids’ sake
hokiepro • 06/29/24 10:07 AM ET
It’s not about letting it go
Planner_Hokie • 06/29/24 11:04 AM ET
The funds didn’t come until he was let go. The FEF
hokiepro • 06/29/24 01:31 PM ET
One of our best classes would be destroyed by CornFucious anyway..**
NokieHokie • 06/30/24 02:34 PM ET
I don’t believe Fu has applied for a head coaching job since
RJHokie • 06/29/24 11:19 AM ET
He stepped down before Miami not UVA
hokiepro • 06/29/24 09:37 AM ET
But I don't preach to my players and by extension to the public about "you
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 11:16 AM ET
What else are they supposed to tell them?
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/28/24 11:26 AM ET
It's a good thing I never said I would behave differently. :)**
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 11:30 AM ET
So everybody is a hypocrite. And that's true, if you think about it.**
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/28/24 11:32 AM ET
To be clear, I am saying I am not coach preaching loyalty. I'm not a HC who
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 11:36 AM ET
He also quit on the season where he let the players vote on the bowl game.**
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 07:39 AM ET
Covid. Probably mentally and physically worn out.
TomTurkey • 06/28/24 11:44 AM ET
Nope. He wanted to go skiing.**
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 11:45 AM ET
Yep, he was a victim of circumstances and contributed significantly.
TomTurkey • 06/27/24 04:12 PM ET
I don't think it's fair to say the $10M was his priority. It's not like he
reestuart • 06/27/24 09:39 AM ET
The $10MM you characterize.......
2hhoop3 • 06/26/24 04:10 PM ET
I think it's ultimately on him, but I also don't think VT supported him
reestuart • 06/27/24 11:24 AM ET
Knock Fu if you must but he's NOT a bad coach.....
hokieinoregon • 06/26/24 02:45 PM ET
Fu is a good coach, no doubt.
RJHokie • 06/26/24 03:51 PM ET
How did you like that ACC Championship?
HokieDelNorte • 06/26/24 09:50 AM ET
fu's spirit lives on in our house. behold my prized bathroom cleaning cup:**
squarerootofone • 06/25/24 09:49 PM ET
Lives in our heads…rent free!**
BackInTheBurg • 06/26/24 11:22 AM ET
I wouldn’t even keep it for bathroom cleaning 😂 **
Hokie`79 • 06/26/24 06:34 AM ET
You mean leaving H.S. games b4 'half 'cause: "they ain't Techmen" is NOT
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 09:25 PM ET
You are correct. Our fans have very low standards for coaches and fall in
NokieHokie • 06/25/24 11:02 PM ET
hard to avoid... new=better & improved and what-not. patience=truthing.
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 11:04 PM ET
Well, assuming VA players are as good as they used to be.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/25/24 08:33 PM ET
Partly supports why I think what Pry says & what Pry does are 2 diff things**
marcbvtgm • 06/27/24 04:24 PM ET
What I've heard about his feelings of the state... ◄
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/28/24 10:37 AM ET
Interesting. But what does the VHSL have to do with our recruiting?
Zanderhokie • 06/28/24 11:00 AM ET
Well, I don't think it would help.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/28/24 11:29 AM ET
And its been that way for awhile and nothing is being done. **
IV_Hokie12 • 06/28/24 01:08 PM ET
The VHSL is pretty much like the high school NCAA.
RJHokie • 06/28/24 11:10 AM ET
Looking at the map those Mississippi Universities certainly underachieve
DarylS • 06/26/24 11:23 AM ET
My guess is they aren't "winning the state" over Bama, UGA, etc**
marcbvtgm • 06/27/24 04:15 PM ET
Right, top players from that state often cross the border.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/26/24 11:28 AM ET
It was still a failed recruiting strategy. For him to just cut off relation
BackInTheBurg • 06/26/24 09:50 AM ET
I don't disagree with that, but that's not my point.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/26/24 10:04 AM ET
That's got to be the most talented VT team. Amazing.**
reestuart • 06/27/24 03:51 PM ET
The 05 Miami game was electric all day, until the kickoff. :(**
NokieHokie • 06/28/24 07:35 AM ET
No doubt about that.**
reestuart • 06/28/24 08:01 AM ET
Good points
AirForceHokie77 • 06/26/24 11:06 AM ET
I wouldn't agree that all things are cyclical. All things change.**
Pride_and_Joy • 06/26/24 02:36 PM ET
Top states have been there for years. My guess is VA's good run was outlier**
marcbvtgm • 06/27/24 04:20 PM ET
Tennessee was a weak HS football state
Pride_and_Joy • 06/27/24 04:36 PM ET
In the context I was speaking on, yes things are cyclical
AirForceHokie77 • 06/26/24 09:57 PM ET
Interesting map, but I'd also like to see it in a per FBS school format.
Hokie622 • 06/26/24 09:00 AM ET
We're doing something wrong in this state.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/26/24 09:39 AM ET
One of the bigger issues...
MBHokie90 • 06/26/24 12:14 PM ET
"Not enough funding for education". No, it's about allocating more from
ColoVT82 • 06/26/24 04:52 PM ET
Yep, that's right.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/26/24 12:48 PM ET
In Georgia high school football coaches are full time football coaches
sideline guy • 06/26/24 12:08 PM ET
YEP DING DING**
hokiepro • 06/29/24 10:22 AM ET
Should we be looking more at Wyoming and Hawaii?
MVIII • 06/26/24 11:42 AM ET
Of course, and I've researched it thoroughly.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/26/24 11:58 AM ET
Virginia is not a progressive forward looking state and
RJHokie • 06/26/24 10:25 AM ET
hmm, not sure...But seems pretty leaned-into sports recently with
VT757to276 • 06/26/24 10:42 AM ET
That’s probably one of the few exceptions you will see.
RJHokie • 06/26/24 11:00 AM ET
I’m amazed Iowa has so many NFL players per capita.
Zanderhokie • 06/25/24 10:49 PM ET
Interesting... what & when was this >4.3 apex? i.e,. how far on the fall?**
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 09:23 PM ET
Back about 10-12 years ago VA had about 20 more total NFL players.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 06/26/24 09:34 AM ET
fair 'enuff.
bourbonstreet • 06/26/24 08:04 PM ET
2: A few schools stockpiling most of the area’s talent.
bourbonstreet • 06/26/24 08:56 PM ET
Thanks........
2hhoop3 • 06/26/24 12:25 PM ET
Interesting map.........
2hhoop3 • 06/25/24 08:42 PM ET
Coach Pry is a much better coach in all aspects than Fu could ever become !**
FLKEYSHOKIE • 06/25/24 05:27 PM ET
I disagree, but I found this hilarious so it's great!**
NokieHokie • 06/25/24 11:00 PM ET
lol false. X&O offense Fu schools most coaches
hokiepro • 06/25/24 10:55 PM ET
The players also like him which is kinda important.**
bburgnative • 06/26/24 07:20 AM ET
Heard a lot of players who said they liked Fu it was his assistants
uber hokie • 06/27/24 06:36 AM ET
Except a head coach isn't that much about xs and os. It's a manager
Twincountyhokie • 06/25/24 11:53 PM ET
...oranges to tangerines as this is O vs. D, right? Though yes... you could
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 11:07 PM ET
I HOPE he’s great…and his D acumen with better run fit DUDES means top
hokiepro • 06/25/24 11:11 PM ET
to have what he 1st year D inherited; and a lack of P.s.u. fit(s)?
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 11:22 PM ET
Really? Better pure O coach than Fu'?**
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 09:26 PM ET
Why do you think Fuente was such a great O coach?
Planner_Hokie • 06/28/24 09:30 PM ET
did not quite say that... just pointing out O vs. D mo' so than measuring.
bourbonstreet • 06/28/24 09:41 PM ET
Maybe not a better "O" coach than Fu, but a much better "overall" coach in
FLKEYSHOKIE • 06/25/24 09:51 PM ET
But you just said "all aspects" above... :)**
NokieHokie • 06/25/24 11:00 PM ET
K. hope so... wish I felt like Eye knew so (already) tho'...**
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 10:39 PM ET
If we had landed the VA guys during Fuente's tenure we would have still
Seikoh_04 • 06/25/24 04:42 PM ET
Is it 'down', really? Or, jus' quite a bit harder to manage/handler$?**
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 09:27 PM ET
Virginia hasn’t produced HS QBs at the same level the state did 10-20 years
Hokie1992 • 06/26/24 07:43 AM ET
From what I have gathered, both!
Seikoh_04 • 06/25/24 09:34 PM ET
Bud talked about Fuente on a podcast I just listened to. He said Fuente
Hokie_Forester • 06/25/24 12:11 PM ET
I listened to the same podcast
kpileski • 06/25/24 01:08 PM ET
There was good reason to go the Fu route
Hokie1992 • 06/26/24 07:52 AM ET
I think it would have been a disaster, and I think Bud was great.**
reestuart • 06/25/24 03:49 PM ET
Eye kinda/sorta (sadly) agry-- albeit not for coaching verbing reason(s).**
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 09:28 PM ET
I agree
HokiesACC2004 • 06/25/24 06:58 PM ET
Agreed. I will give Whit credit for not succumbing to what I'm sure was a
NokieHokie • 06/25/24 04:07 PM ET
We would have had the Oregon offense! :)**
NokieHokie • 06/25/24 01:43 PM ET
Bud is right........
2hhoop3 • 06/25/24 12:37 PM ET
^this^ a strategic/Macro thinker on TSL... who, knew?
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 09:34 PM ET
To your second point, I think it was a coincidence of timing, not any plan.**
NokieHokie • 06/25/24 10:54 PM ET
I think .........
2hhoop3 • 06/25/24 09:51 PM ET
well struck... Eye may borrow that used/new thingy. Va Pop. is up, tho'...**
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 10:02 PM ET
Population is up.......
2hhoop3 • 06/25/24 10:14 PM ET
Eye locked your article'lized props in. Sharp1 too.**
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 10:08 PM ET
Spoke with a local High School AD a couple of weeks ago about Fuente…
BeachGobbler • 06/25/24 11:29 AM ET
Worst; interview, EVER. I literally walked outside, looked up at the Sky...
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 09:31 PM ET
Wow. That’s disturbing. How did we ever end up with that guy as head coach?
Zanderhokie • 06/25/24 10:57 PM ET
he and a local H.S. football coach... only 2 that I could not wait to end.
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 11:03 PM ET
Haha I remember you talking about that interview and I was like WTF?!**
NokieHokie • 06/25/24 10:57 PM ET
it was the enemy of Fu'n. Sad.**
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 11:10 PM ET
He's one of the hot hires at the time with Tom Herman
HokiesACC2004 • 06/25/24 07:01 PM ET
We hired him because he had an outstanding O-coordinator!
EDGEMAN • 06/25/24 11:30 AM ET
Fu also caught lightning in a bottle with QB Paxton Lynch (1st rounder)
kingofcassell • 06/25/24 11:47 AM ET
...his Lawyer = agen¢y the noun, max'.**
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 09:37 PM ET
I have a different take on Fuente
TekkNerd • 06/25/24 11:01 AM ET
I am still going to give him one point in recruiting the state
VTCALS72 • 06/25/24 04:32 PM ET
Yes, JF highlighted our need to invest money. This was big
HokieAl • 06/25/24 11:11 AM ET
Yes this **
hokiepro • 06/25/24 02:29 PM ET
is Pry recruiting better than Fuente? seems like a wash at this point**
kingofcassell • 06/25/24 10:38 AM ET
No but our player development has improved...
MBHokie90 • 06/26/24 12:17 PM ET
I think next year (2025) should be pretty telling on player development
kingofcassell • 06/26/24 12:50 PM ET
wait'll you see part II.**
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 09:39 PM ET
Recruiting VA
Gman12 • 06/25/24 11:28 AM ET
(possibly) most illuming... in that the Portal is not the Fu'bar Va-hole.**
bourbonstreet • 06/25/24 09:41 PM ET
He is meeting needs better already thru recruiting plus transfers
VictoryTurkey • 06/25/24 10:58 AM ET