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Badges of Fraud
English common law. If it looks like fraud, smells like fraud its probably fraud. Example, say you filed bankruptcy, have some hidden cash (which the Bkrpcy Ct is entitled to have and you're duty bound to give them) and you ask me to take that cash under the table and buy a car for you that you’re gonna drive. Both of us are undertaking a fraud on the BK Court and creditors. The car is the badge you wear.
So, the ‘lady’ gets a 55% pay raise. Hmmm, that smells. It’s the badge. But it requires a fraud not of just the coach' making but participation by several people on the payroll of a major university.
There’s civil fraud (not good) and criminal fraud (real bad). And there’s state fraud statutes and federal fraud statutes. Let the games begin.
This is a deep deep rabbit hole IMO.
[CPA, not a lawyer but was, briefly, a rainmaker.]
** Edited by V333T at 12/11/2025, 4:57:52 PM
** Edited by V333T at 12/11/2025, 5:37:46 PM
Thread Replies (48)
Latest report Michigan AD Warde Manuel will be fired next.
-- carhokies
Dec 11, 2025 at 04:28 PM ET
carhokies
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12/11/25 04:28 PM ET
What Dan Wetzel said on Dan Patrick's show was a bit different.
-- hoosnowahokie
Dec 12, 2025 at 08:26 AM ET
hoosnowahokie
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12/12/25 08:26 AM ET
Staff and AD knew about it since summer. Moore and mistress denied it
-- carhokies
Dec 12, 2025 at 10:16 AM ET
carhokies
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12/12/25 10:16 AM ET
I remember their previous men's Bball coach Juwan Howard did some very
-- VPI_1998
Dec 12, 2025 at 06:09 AM ET
VPI_1998
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12/12/25 06:09 AM ET
Death penalty. Who says no?**
-- Maroon Baboon
Dec 11, 2025 at 06:09 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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12/11/25 06:09 PM ET
This has nothing to do with the university or football.
-- fordham
Dec 12, 2025 at 05:16 AM ET
fordham
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12/12/25 05:16 AM ET
Yes, it mattered. That's why he was fired "for cause." Michigan fired Moore
-- carhokies
Dec 12, 2025 at 06:44 AM ET
carhokies
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12/12/25 06:44 AM ET
If Ped State didn’t get the death penalty, no one ever will again**
-- BROman Hokie
Dec 11, 2025 at 06:27 PM ET
BROman Hokie
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12/11/25 06:27 PM ET
Facts. Don't get me started on those pukes.
-- Maroon Baboon
Dec 11, 2025 at 09:47 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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12/11/25 09:47 PM ET
I've heard the basically did away with it at some point after the SMU thing
-- fnhokie
Dec 11, 2025 at 07:24 PM ET
fnhokie
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12/11/25 07:24 PM ET
Not before they smack Virginia Tech harshly in 1987
-- Hokie1992
Dec 11, 2025 at 10:47 PM ET
Hokie1992
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12/11/25 10:47 PM ET
I'll believe it (firing Manuel) when I see it. Should've happened long ago.**
-- Hokie 04
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:44 PM ET
Hokie 04
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12/11/25 05:44 PM ET
1st has to hire Brian Kelley or Bobby Petrino, for maximum carnage**
-- Georgia Hokie
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:43 PM ET
Georgia Hokie
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12/11/25 05:43 PM ET
Seems like everyone knew for a while, was there always a plan?
-- Turk Malloy
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:21 PM ET
Turk Malloy
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12/11/25 05:21 PM ET
A very deep rabbit hole forthcoming IMO.
-- V333T
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:00 PM ET
V333T
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12/11/25 05:00 PM ET
Bring back Brady Hoke. He could manipulate officials. Ask Danny Coale😁**
-- 1MetroHokie
Dec 11, 2025 at 04:57 PM ET
1MetroHokie
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12/11/25 04:57 PM ET
That is too good. ACC booth would not reverse a call like that (Miami ‘24)**
-- V333T
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:17 PM ET
V333T
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12/11/25 05:17 PM ET
Nothing like a big mess at McChicken to get everyone all fired up!
-- RJHokie
Dec 11, 2025 at 04:51 PM ET
RJHokie
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12/11/25 04:51 PM ET
Michigan State breathes a sigh of relief it's not them. Again!**
-- ancient alien 2018
Dec 11, 2025 at 07:46 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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12/11/25 07:46 PM ET
Yeah, after the Mel Tucker incident!**
-- RJHokie
Dec 11, 2025 at 07:56 PM ET
RJHokie
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12/11/25 07:56 PM ET
Not to mention the pervert gymnastics trainer.**
-- ancient alien 2018
Dec 11, 2025 at 08:49 PM ET
ancient alien 2018
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12/11/25 08:49 PM ET
Yeah, lots of shenanigans in the Big Ten!
-- RJHokie
Dec 11, 2025 at 09:54 PM ET
RJHokie
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12/11/25 09:54 PM ET
It is quicker and easier......
-- 2hhoop3
Dec 11, 2025 at 10:05 PM ET
2hhoop3
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12/11/25 10:05 PM ET
They should hire ND coach - or KELLEY- fresh off his LSU buyout check**
-- bigbadbird
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:18 PM ET
bigbadbird
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12/11/25 05:18 PM ET
see what happens when you lose to the Buckeye's ? you go craxy **
-- bigbadbird
Dec 11, 2025 at 04:46 PM ET
bigbadbird
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12/11/25 04:46 PM ET
Wait what V333T and this is your 333rd post! WHAAAT!
-- astrohokiebob
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:41 PM ET
astrohokiebob
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12/11/25 05:41 PM ET
From a former federal fraud investigator, you got that pretty right.**
-- saret
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:25 PM ET
saret
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12/11/25 05:25 PM ET
Thanx, Bk Court forensic accountant ‘expert’ witness
-- V333T
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:34 PM ET
V333T
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12/11/25 05:34 PM ET
Thank you kindly for the thought, but I’ve done aged out
-- V333T
Dec 12, 2025 at 08:19 AM ET
V333T
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12/12/25 08:19 AM ET
Fraud investigations can be laborious and tedious, but the evidence
-- saret
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:44 PM ET
saret
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12/11/25 05:44 PM ET
The places I went to find records, not knowing IF they were there at all
-- V333T
Dec 11, 2025 at 06:23 PM ET
V333T
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12/11/25 06:23 PM ET
if you are gonna give her that much of a raise
-- bigbadbird
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:02 PM ET
bigbadbird
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12/11/25 05:02 PM ET
Need to do it the UNCheats way. Get a donor to do the payoff.
-- V333T
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:06 PM ET
V333T
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12/11/25 05:06 PM ET
Pay and Stay is a pretty juvenile move-**
-- bigbadbird
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:09 PM ET
bigbadbird
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12/11/25 05:09 PM ET
Very much so, and pretty obvious. **
-- RJHokie
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:20 PM ET
RJHokie
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12/11/25 05:20 PM ET
let's keep these together- ALL DAY
-- bigbadbird
Dec 11, 2025 at 05:22 PM ET
bigbadbird
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12/11/25 05:22 PM ET
Wow. Jim Harbaugh really held that place together, huh?
-- Zanderhokie
Dec 11, 2025 at 04:32 PM ET
Zanderhokie
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12/11/25 04:32 PM ET
Didn't he leave once the violations he committed started to hit?
-- HokieInClifton
Dec 11, 2025 at 04:54 PM ET
HokieInClifton
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12/11/25 04:54 PM ET
He went back to the pros just ahead of the posse.**
-- Atlee Hokie
Dec 11, 2025 at 06:55 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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12/11/25 06:55 PM ET
IIRC, he and the AD didn't get along at all.**
-- reestuart
Dec 11, 2025 at 04:44 PM ET
reestuart
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12/11/25 04:44 PM ET
Or the Bunny Ranch solved of Michigan's problems during his watch.**
-- VTHokie2000
Dec 11, 2025 at 04:35 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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12/11/25 04:35 PM ET