FWIW the much praised (and well deserved) turnaround at Louisville...
Which has been talked about here due to a big resurgence in NIL
Louisville's rotation consists of 1 player who averaged double digits last year at a P5 (or P4, whatever) school
The entire roster has one player who was a HS Top 100 player
This is why when fans shout to "hire recruiters" they should be put in a corner.
Louisville hired Kenny Payne, one of the biggest recruiting hires for any non blueblood school...and he bombed
Did he bomb due to a lack of talent? Lack of NIL?
No, of course not. His team last year had top transfers on it as well as 8 (EIGHT!!) former Top 100 HS players. 8x as many as their current iteration. And yes, that means they had the same number of wins as they had Top 100 players.
They hired a good coach who had a plan. He brought over players from his former school who became starters in the ACC and somehow overcame being a CAA-level player to lead them to the top of the conference.
Good coaching matters, good fit matters more. More often than not "recruiting hires" don't work out at places that are difficult to recruit OR places that do not have a plan for the recruits you get to campus.
Anyway, next time someone mentions all that NIL money being thrown around at Louisville, make sure the proper context is they offered the right fits, not the top players.
Posted: 03/15/2025 at 10:13 PM ET
Thread Replies (28)
FWIW the much praised (and well deserved) turnaround at Louisville...
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-- GCHokie34
Mar 15, 2025 at 10:13 PM ET
GCHokie34
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03/15/25 10:13 PM ET
Great Coach and Motivator
-- ftsumterhokie
Mar 17, 2025 at 03:28 PM ET
ftsumterhokie
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03/17/25 03:28 PM ET
Weren't Hepburn, Hadley, and Edwards highly sought after in the portal?
-- GoldCoast
Mar 16, 2025 at 10:43 AM ET
GoldCoast
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03/16/25 10:43 AM ET
Hadley is the one I was referring to as the lone P5 player to avg 10+
-- GCHokie34
Mar 16, 2025 at 11:06 AM ET
GCHokie34
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03/16/25 11:06 AM ET
Forgotten but Louisville also got Kasean Pryor from USF. He blew his knee
-- millmtnhokie
Mar 16, 2025 at 03:36 PM ET
millmtnhokie
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03/16/25 03:36 PM ET
He also didn’t want Ben Burnham**
-- MFWHokie0607
Mar 16, 2025 at 01:07 PM ET
MFWHokie0607
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03/16/25 01:07 PM ET
We outbid Louisville for a basketball player?
-- MFWHokie0607
Mar 16, 2025 at 02:03 PM ET
MFWHokie0607
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03/16/25 02:03 PM ET
Outbidding someone for a player doesn't mean high dollars...
-- GCHokie34
Mar 16, 2025 at 02:10 PM ET
GCHokie34
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03/16/25 02:10 PM ET
This isn't a video game...
-- GCHokie34
Mar 16, 2025 at 02:20 PM ET
GCHokie34
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03/16/25 02:20 PM ET
I get what you’re saying but Chucky avg 12 and 3 his Soph yr at Wisco. He
-- jfrance41
Mar 16, 2025 at 11:24 AM ET
jfrance41
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03/16/25 11:24 AM ET
Yeah I'm not arguing he isn't a good player...
-- GCHokie34
Mar 16, 2025 at 12:23 PM ET
GCHokie34
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03/16/25 12:23 PM ET
Hepburn did average 30+ min for 3 yrs at Wisconsin.
-- hokieZ71
Mar 16, 2025 at 11:19 AM ET
hokieZ71
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03/16/25 11:19 AM ET
My educated guesses for the cost of those cores: Louisville: $2.5M ish for
-- jfrance41
Mar 16, 2025 at 11:30 AM ET
jfrance41
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03/16/25 11:30 AM ET
It’s not JUST NIL. It’s definitely coaching. Kelsey is a helluva coach.
-- hokieZ71
Mar 15, 2025 at 11:11 PM ET
hokieZ71
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03/15/25 11:11 PM ET
Whit screwed the program. **
-- TboneParkerVT
Mar 16, 2025 at 08:11 PM ET
TboneParkerVT
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03/16/25 08:11 PM ET
It can easily be argued Young turned 8-24 into 13-19 this year.
-- hokieZ71
Mar 15, 2025 at 11:23 PM ET
hokieZ71
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03/15/25 11:23 PM ET
It can also be argued his previous 3 teams underperformed.
-- GoldCoast
Mar 16, 2025 at 10:26 AM ET
GoldCoast
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03/16/25 10:26 AM ET
Very fair points that don’t get discussed much. That ACC winning team was
-- jfrance41
Mar 16, 2025 at 11:37 AM ET
jfrance41
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03/16/25 11:37 AM ET
24/25 was 5-5 on the road?
-- GCHokie34
Mar 16, 2025 at 11:28 AM ET
GCHokie34
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03/16/25 11:28 AM ET
Ah, meant previous year and missed a 2nd win (at Lou) so 2-10 overall.**
-- GoldCoast
Mar 16, 2025 at 04:11 PM ET
GoldCoast
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03/16/25 04:11 PM ET
They have an AD that knows what they are doing.
-- OrlandoHokie
Mar 15, 2025 at 10:55 PM ET
OrlandoHokie
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03/15/25 10:55 PM ET
Is he the Ad that brought in kenny payne?**
-- hokietom87
Mar 16, 2025 at 06:51 AM ET
hokietom87
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03/16/25 06:51 AM ET
Sort of. He was interim AD.
-- Gobbler Guru
Mar 16, 2025 at 01:45 PM ET
Gobbler Guru
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03/16/25 01:45 PM ET