Two things can be true at the same time.
Yes, Mike Young was undoubtedly handicapped by VT's decision to shift NIL resources away from hoops and toward football.
Yes, Mike Young had already reached the point of diminishing returns as VT's head coach, and the roster exodus has just shined a brighter spotlight on trends that were already well in motion.
Young has proven that, in an era where teams could count on a LOT more roster stability than we will ever see again, he was capable of producing peaks every few years, but those peaks were inevitably preceded by (and succeeded by) seasons either barely above .500 or with some pretty bad records (10 wins in 2006, 13 in 2012, losing records in both 2015 and 2016). That type of every-four-years peak is his demonstrated ceiling. And that was in the old world.
The biggest concern about Mike Young when he was hired was recruiting. That was initially solved by having Chester Frazier and Antwon Jackson as assistants. And no coincidence, the core of Young's best VT team was brought in while Frazier was still in Blacksburg. Since Frazier left, player retention issues have mushroomed, and the two best players who signed with VT (Rice and Buchanan) never contributed here. The last ACC-caliber player signed by Young, who lasted more than 1 season at VT, was Pedulla (in 2021). A roster of players who left VT in the last few years (several before the NIL explosion) would absolutely destroy this year's roster.
And what's the pitch going forward? In a world where even the blue bloods are experiencing massive roster turnover every season, where kids want an immediate opportunity to showcase their skills, where counting on a core of players to grow together and peak as juniors or seniors is totally impossible, what does Young offer recruits? Come and play in a system that, as he has demonstrated repeatedly, makes it difficult to be effective or see significant PT for the first 1-2 years? Be prepared to play at one of the slowest paces in the nation? Be almost exclusively reliant on perimeter offense and jump shooting, even if that isn't your strength?
Do I think this year's VT team would have been better with more NIL dollars to spread around? Absolutely. But even if we had brought back Kidd, Pedulla, and Nickel, that core group was average last season, no reason to think they would make some kind of great leap this year.
Yes, VT needs to provide better financial support to men's hoops. I also think they need a coaching reset. The rigidity of Young's system and his weaknesses in roster building are not going to result in consistent success in our brave new portal/NIL world.
Posted: 12/05/2024 at 01:55 PM ET
Thread Replies (24)
Two things can be true at the same time.
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-- Gobbler Guru
Dec 05, 2024 at 01:55 PM ET
Gobbler Guru
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12/05/24 01:55 PM ET
Honestly this view feels myopic and is grasping at a “gotcha”
-- soflahokie
Dec 05, 2024 at 04:09 PM ET
soflahokie
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12/05/24 04:09 PM ET
In what world is MY a “program builder?” Head coach at exactly one place
-- JLuge76
Dec 06, 2024 at 06:48 AM ET
JLuge76
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12/06/24 06:48 AM ET
Yeah we are a feeder school now. I’d say
-- GreenvilleVT
Dec 05, 2024 at 08:40 PM ET
GreenvilleVT
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12/05/24 08:40 PM ET
No it's not. Laid out nicely and not myopic nor is it grasping at a gotcha
-- catdaddy
Dec 05, 2024 at 07:51 PM ET
catdaddy
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12/05/24 07:51 PM ET
And he is clearly frustrated
-- SteveInBaltimore
Dec 05, 2024 at 06:17 PM ET
SteveInBaltimore
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12/05/24 06:17 PM ET
Mark asked how he was going to improve shooting. Asked him for suggestions.
-- TomTurkey
Dec 05, 2024 at 08:46 PM ET
TomTurkey
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12/05/24 08:46 PM ET
I don't see why he shouldn't be expected to adjust his approach....
-- GoldCoast
Dec 05, 2024 at 04:35 PM ET
GoldCoast
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12/05/24 04:35 PM ET
Add to that, Cassell - especially an empty Cassell - doesn't hold much
-- 501
Dec 05, 2024 at 04:04 PM ET
501
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12/05/24 04:04 PM ET
Hopefully fans keep attending games this year.
-- MKD
Dec 05, 2024 at 04:23 PM ET
MKD
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12/05/24 04:23 PM ET
Passing around the perimeter is truly exciting…..a turnover could happen
-- hokieblitz
Dec 05, 2024 at 06:29 PM ET
hokieblitz
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12/05/24 06:29 PM ET
Excellent overall macro post which I feel is pretty spot on. **
-- catdaddy
Dec 05, 2024 at 03:07 PM ET
catdaddy
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12/05/24 03:07 PM ET
Given the state of football, we are FUBAR until the ACC gets this divorce
-- WildTurkE
Dec 05, 2024 at 02:52 PM ET
WildTurkE
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12/05/24 02:52 PM ET
The ACC is a disaster because of the ridiculous media rights contract **
-- MKD
Dec 05, 2024 at 03:30 PM ET
MKD
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12/05/24 03:30 PM ET
I tend to agree that we a stuck at this point football and hoops wise
-- Vippie1
Dec 05, 2024 at 03:13 PM ET
Vippie1
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12/05/24 03:13 PM ET
Yup. I love CMY, but without the full support he needs to run his system,
-- VT ChemE 1986
Dec 05, 2024 at 02:40 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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12/05/24 02:40 PM ET
I think at this point I’d start at the top, with both revenue programs
-- NC Hoke
Dec 05, 2024 at 02:24 PM ET
NC Hoke
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12/05/24 02:24 PM ET
Do you really think a new AD will solve VT's issues?**
-- marcbvtgm
Dec 05, 2024 at 03:27 PM ET
marcbvtgm
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12/05/24 03:27 PM ET
Well, think about what has changed in college athletics since Whit took
-- NC Hoke
Dec 05, 2024 at 05:26 PM ET
NC Hoke
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12/05/24 05:26 PM ET
Yes, new AD has to be the starting point before coaching changes.**
-- Gobbler-100
Dec 05, 2024 at 03:05 PM ET
Gobbler-100
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12/05/24 03:05 PM ET
Not to mention we should have zero faith that Whit
-- Vippie1
Dec 05, 2024 at 03:17 PM ET
Vippie1
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12/05/24 03:17 PM ET
I think CMY was a solid hire at the time for what we needed
-- HokieAl
Dec 05, 2024 at 02:13 PM ET
HokieAl
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12/05/24 02:13 PM ET