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I was addressing the comment by Jethro that Buzz "left the program in shambles". After a back and forth with Maha Guru, he essentially acknowledged no coach leaves a foundation and that Buzz's biggest offense in that category was using up all the official visits. I just _acknowledged_ that in the post directly above your reply so I don't understand why you read that differently. I wasn't saying it was common to use up official visits. I was saying, since it is common to leave the cupboard bare, thus forcing the next coach to bring in all new staff and players, CMY will be no different than Buzz. He isn't _building_ something special. "Leaving the program in shambles" appears to be an overreaction by most fans. I'm not a Buzz apologist because I too was irritated with how he left. But only because I wanted the program to continue building in a positive direction.
Posted: 03/01/2024 at 04:49 PM ET
(In response to this post by Italian Stallion)

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Buzz fans
Wade4VT • 02/28/24 10:56 PM ET
I still miss the Buzz mentality**
VT Rocker • 02/29/24 09:41 PM ET
I miss the "my post-game interviews may be incomprehensible to the . .
MidloHokie • 03/01/24 06:54 AM ET
Something about A&M throwing a lot of money at coaches and players
VPI_1998 • 02/29/24 05:02 PM ET
Because only doesn't buy championships. You have to have the right leaders.**
NokieHokie • 03/01/24 09:38 AM ET
He’s swimming in the shark pool in sec
tallahasseehokie • 02/29/24 12:54 PM ET
Brent is good but not great.
Jethro Tull • 02/29/24 11:43 AM ET
Stop that Sweet 16 Nonsense
gman86 • 02/29/24 11:58 AM ET
And Chris Clark was suspended, 5 was hurt down the stretch. Great team!**
Shep • 02/29/24 02:30 PM ET
Purdue/UVA in 2019 was not a final 4 game
Jethro Tull • 02/29/24 01:28 PM ET
To make the Final 4
gman86 • 03/01/24 12:03 PM ET
Hating Buzz and desperately trying to elevate MY
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 01:25 PM ET
a natural inclination for sports fans when a really good coach leaves for
VPI_1998 • 02/29/24 05:07 PM ET
I don't hate Brent but I don't wish him well either
Jethro Tull • 02/29/24 01:42 PM ET
Why do you call him Brent?
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 01:45 PM ET
Brent Langdon Williams is his legal name**
Jethro Tull • 02/29/24 01:53 PM ET
Robert Eugene Foster is Bud’s legal name.
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 01:54 PM ET
Because Bud earned my respect?**
Femoyer Hokie • 02/29/24 02:00 PM ET
You’re making my point.
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 02:14 PM ET
I don't hate him
Jethro Tull • 02/29/24 02:41 PM ET
You don’t have to thank him for
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 02:59 PM ET
Ask yourself. When CMY leaves, what has he done
WildTurkE • 02/29/24 02:56 PM ET
rotfl You're joking, right? Get a clue.**
ancient alien 2018 • 02/29/24 07:41 PM ET
An ACC Championship...**
GCHokie34 • 02/29/24 03:06 PM ET
So the next coach can tell recruits the previous coach won?
WildTurkE • 02/29/24 03:09 PM ET
With that logic...what did Buzz do for VT?**
GCHokie34 • 02/29/24 03:13 PM ET
CMY could likely leave the cupboard as bare as Buzz
WildTurkE • 02/29/24 03:19 PM ET
As far as I can tell...
Chris ColemanAdmin • 03/01/24 09:31 AM ET
True, but Buzz's cupboard would have been bare even if he had stayed**
vtbball80 • 03/02/24 11:40 AM ET
My point was Buzz gets so much grief for a common practice
WildTurkE • 03/01/24 09:46 AM ET
Is it common practice to use up all the recruiting visits on your way out
Italian Stallion • 03/01/24 04:28 PM ET
Read carefully ◄
WildTurkE • 03/01/24 04:49 PM ET
Most coaches who are "gone" usually don't leave much behind bc that's
atlhokie1 • 02/29/24 10:28 PM ET
If that is your criteria...
GCHokie34 • 02/29/24 03:43 PM ET
So people saying Buzz left the program in shambles
WildTurkE • 02/29/24 03:50 PM ET
The part that was "in shambles"
GCHokie34 • 02/29/24 03:52 PM ET
Will be interesting if they are stuck with him...
Cvillehoops13 • 02/29/24 10:40 AM ET
I thought he was all about getting back to Texas (the state). Is his
501 • 02/29/24 01:34 PM ET
A&M going to have a new AD here soon and that will impact his timeline
VTScoop • 02/29/24 01:24 PM ET
I thought he was retiring before 50 because Bball wasn't life?**
hoosnowahokie • 02/29/24 11:46 AM ET
lol, coaches say a lot of things, best to take with a grain of salt.... :)**
santafe • 02/29/24 12:15 PM ET
A grain of salt the size of Earth... :)**
NokieHokie • 02/29/24 01:32 PM ET
Yeah, he just got an extension this past summer.
Chris ColemanAdmin • 02/29/24 10:55 AM ET
Oklahoma State has very well known NIL issues for bball at the moment...
Cvillehoops13 • 02/29/24 12:50 PM ET
If you have the time, I'd appreciate hearing more about "the way he does
johnmcd40 • 02/29/24 03:50 PM ET
Careful...5 games to Buzz supporters is "lightning in a bottle"**
GCHokie34 • 02/28/24 11:36 PM ET
The SEC is a premiere basketball league.
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 08:12 AM ET
My only question is - name the last time SEC men's basketball team won
VPI_1998 • 02/29/24 05:12 PM ET
SEC marketing is strong. What has that conference done to
GoldCoast • 02/29/24 03:41 PM ET
So you see the SEC as inferior to the ACC, do you?**
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 03:48 PM ET
Similar, if not on par. Lots of parity across the country...
GoldCoast • 02/29/24 04:13 PM ET
Well, that’s an opinion alright. **
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 05:11 PM ET
Acc is a much better overall league**
Durham Hokie • 02/29/24 12:29 PM ET
😂😂😂
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 01:12 PM ET
Much more NCAA titles for Acc**
Durham Hokie • 02/29/24 02:23 PM ET
This year. We’re not talking about
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 02:57 PM ET
The sec acc tournament ended in a tie
Durham Hokie • 02/29/24 04:16 PM ET
Hey, hey! Stop bringing facts to this argument!
Zanderhokie • 02/29/24 05:34 PM ET
Whatever helps you sleep at night
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 05:13 PM ET
Yea, very tough to win at 215th ranked Vanderbilt**
GCHokie34 • 02/29/24 11:49 AM ET
That’s your argument against the SEC? 😂
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 12:03 PM ET
That's the argument against this 5 game losing streak...
GCHokie34 • 02/29/24 12:08 PM ET
It’s a tough league. Even Vandy is good.
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 01:11 PM ET
Imagine pressing submit after saying an 8 win team is good**
GCHokie34 • 02/29/24 01:47 PM ET
Imagine thinking VT had a path to a tourney bid and…
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 01:50 PM ET
Keep this up P&J. I find your posts very entertaining
catdaddy • 02/29/24 05:47 PM ET
I'm guessing you two live in one of your mother's basement, trying
ancient alien 2018 • 02/29/24 09:53 PM ET
Yes that league the ACC split with.
Wade4VT • 02/29/24 09:19 AM ET
I get it. Cognitive dissonance sort of requires
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 09:43 AM ET
So that’s an excuse for losing 5 in a row, right…**
ombandit • 02/29/24 08:14 AM ET
I guess it seems more excusable
Pride_and_Joy • 02/29/24 08:18 AM ET
I guess we can tell the sculpter to hold off on the cassell lobby
GreenvilleVT • 02/29/24 07:45 AM ET
rotfl!!**
ancient alien 2018 • 02/29/24 12:04 AM ET