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Kansas also has losses to WVU, UCF

So are those teams the ACC teams beat good? Tough? Or bad because they lost to ACC teams? Are TCU & Baylor bad too??? Is Iowa St. They all lost to Clemson, Duke, VT respectively WHY are you feeding into the narrative of analytics over ON COURT results???
Posted: 01/30/2024 at 12:16 PM ET
(In response to this post by HokieRat)

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SVP and Lunardi talking about how the ACC
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 12:57 AM ET
The mountain west is this years fad. **
GreenvilleVT 01/30/24 11:31 AM ET
This can not be overstated enough.**
HokieRat 01/30/24 11:54 AM ET
No one cared when ESPN let it's darling Big East get absorbed
WildTurkE 01/30/24 10:14 AM ET
Big difference IMO.......
2hhoop3 01/30/24 12:56 PM ET
You don't think the ACC is
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 06:00 PM ET
I would suggest......
2hhoop3 01/30/24 07:24 PM ET
You're certainly free to disagree, of course.
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 08:05 PM ET
I have explained it to you.....
2hhoop3 01/30/24 08:17 PM ET
It’s a business decision based on viewership, ratings, appeal,
RJHokie 01/30/24 08:14 PM ET
Very true. This board wasn't lamenting the demise of the Big East.
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 11:03 AM ET
Statistically, 2nd worst ACC in 17+ years. Last year, 2023, was worst
catdaddy 01/30/24 09:02 AM ET
On the court. ACC 8 - 3 vs B12
hokiepro 01/30/24 11:11 AM ET
Legendary coach retirements temporary hurt flagships unc & duke
VT757to276 01/30/24 10:30 AM ET
Syracuse and Notre Dame's decline under HoFers Boeheim and Brey cannot be
WildTurkE 01/30/24 10:40 AM ET
When did the transfer rules change? I think historical kenpom should be
HokieAl 01/30/24 09:52 AM ET
Very interesting.
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 09:16 AM ET
There are enough numbers out there for everyone to argue their own way.
Chris ColemanAdmin 01/30/24 09:57 AM ET
Being good seems like a pretty good way to be perceived as good.**
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 09:59 AM ET
How many Final 4 teams did B12, SEC, B1G have last year? Zero.
hokiepro 01/30/24 07:57 AM ET
And yet, there's been an ACC team in the Final 4 in 4 out of the last 6 &
HeisenBurg13 01/30/24 07:13 AM ET
And yet that's not proof in any way that the conference is strong. I guess
King of Hokies 01/30/24 09:56 AM ET
Are you not a little surprised that
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 07:15 AM ET
There is no question......
2hhoop3 01/30/24 09:59 AM ET
Totally agree with that!
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 10:51 AM ET
Hoos have a special distinction with that difference **
TomTurkey 01/30/24 04:20 PM ET
Well, they've had both. We've had neither. So there's that. **
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 05:37 PM ET
And the trifecta of losing to a 16**
TomTurkey 01/30/24 05:50 PM ET
I'd take it in a heart beat to have a natty.
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 05:52 PM ET
Of course. **
TomTurkey 01/30/24 05:55 PM ET
Not surprised at all. It is due to the lack of respect that the ACC
HeisenBurg13 01/30/24 07:20 AM ET
I think the conclusion they seemed to be reaching from the data was
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 09:22 AM ET
VT Women's Hoops were #1 seed last year. Are they in the ACC?**
WildTurkE 01/30/24 07:44 AM ET
(Deleted because it was stupid)
Will StewartAdmin 01/30/24 07:57 AM ET
NOBODY is talking about ACC’s record vs B12
hokiepro 01/30/24 07:58 AM ET
Just trying to understand, do you think the ACC is a better basektball
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 09:32 AM ET
Not quite but they’re not far off
hokiepro 01/30/24 11:00 AM ET
Head-to-head is one of many factors to consider
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 11:12 AM ET
NET is garbage
hokiepro 01/30/24 11:27 AM ET
You seem to be a bit inconsistent
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 02:35 PM ET
If you can’t understand how skewed it is to say the conference that is 3-8
hokiepro 01/30/24 02:51 PM ET
Nice job deflecting.
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 03:12 PM ET
Ah yes where 5 of those 8 wins came against the bottom 6 of the B12,
HokieRat 01/30/24 08:06 AM ET
Ok, show the B12 wins…
hokiepro 01/30/24 11:05 AM ET
Lol to pretend like the 8 wins are against the top of the Big 12
HokieRat 01/30/24 11:53 AM ET
Kansas also has losses to WVU, UCF
hokiepro 01/30/24 12:16 PM ET
It's mind boggling how bad some people's ability to reason is**
King of Hokies 01/30/24 09:58 AM ET
Mine or his? Facts are below**
hokiepro 01/30/24 11:02 AM ET
B12 wins vs ACC: 1 pt by Texas over UL, Cincy over GT
hokiepro 01/30/24 08:24 AM ET
Pretty sure we are on the men's board, talking about *men's* basketball.
HeisenBurg13 01/30/24 07:50 AM ET
So the ESPN conspiracy towards the ACC is men's hoops only. Got it.
WildTurkE 01/30/24 07:59 AM ET
That was my point it’s BOTH
hokiepro 01/30/24 11:03 AM ET
Seriously? Get bent. We were talking about basketball, not football.
HeisenBurg13 01/30/24 08:09 AM ET
Such animus. We're just talking. I'm pointing out that the ACC's
WildTurkE 01/30/24 08:23 AM ET
Only took you two snarky replies to get to some real points. Good stuff in
HeisenBurg13 01/30/24 11:17 AM ET
A team making the final four as less than a 1 seed
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 07:30 AM ET
Respect can be earned.......
2hhoop3 01/30/24 09:44 AM ET
It may raise the question of their seeding but it doesn't
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 09:47 AM ET
Maybe not definitively.......
2hhoop3 01/30/24 10:06 AM ET
I don't think what you're pointing out is a mis-seeding.
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 11:01 AM ET
That is not.....
2hhoop3 01/30/24 11:43 AM ET
Good post as well.
Pride_and_Joy 01/30/24 01:00 PM ET
Not at all. Your point is valid. And on a case by case basis, it isn't
HeisenBurg13 01/30/24 07:42 AM ET
UNC should remedy that for this year**
hoodat 01/30/24 07:03 AM ET