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Seems to me honesty.......

is not the problem but, rather reaction by the player to that honesty, both in Collins' and Rice's situation. Let's look at Rice's situation first. He is told it is Pedulla's job to lose based on being the most experienced. While none of us know what else may have been said, the reaction of packing up seems unwise at best. Why not stay, compete and see how it turns out? He could still leave at the end of the year. Seems highly unlikely sitting for year was the best idea for his stock as a player. Collins' is a little more understandable, in my opinion. He has done what was asked and contributed and the potential that he was undervalued could certainly trigger a belief that any situation where he was more appreciated was preferable. Of course, if it was presented that we have to get better at your spot and will be looking to create competition by bringing someone in and may the best player win that should not deter a competitor. However, the backdrop to all this is NIL as these conversations have a different tenor if NIL is competitive as opposed to a bottom third or bottom three offering. VT men's basketball clearly has some challenges to work through and can ill afford to shoot themselves in the foot due to poorly handled conversations. Not saying that is what happened, just that there are a lot of angles to consider.
Posted: 04/04/2024 at 03:44 PM ET
(In response to this post by WildTurkE)

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Of the Hokie players that portaled, were any of them asked to leave? **
YBYSAIAHokie 04/03/24 10:21 PM ET
Camden...
GCHokie34 04/04/24 09:33 AM ET
Are you surprised Wessler wasn't? **
chagerma 04/04/24 04:26 PM ET
Camden and Collins, I think. Kidd was probably not going to be
WestEndHokie39 04/04/24 09:19 AM ET
I heard that MJ Collins was. Not sure if true.**
santafe 04/04/24 08:20 AM ET
Somehow I doubt he was asked to leave. What I think happened was...
EDGEMAN 04/04/24 09:21 AM ET
Definitely what I think**
WildTurkE 04/04/24 09:56 AM ET
Well, he was a starter here, not a backup.
Chris ColemanAdmin 04/04/24 09:32 AM ET
It seems strange to me that you tell someone
HokieDelNorte 04/04/24 01:30 PM ET
Especially if you consider his honesty may have cost Rodney Rice
WildTurkE 04/04/24 03:20 PM ET
Seems to me honesty.......
2hhoop3 04/04/24 03:44 PM ET
That is an intirely too logical take :-)**
Woody 04/04/24 02:34 PM ET
interesting - what happened to players deciding who starts and sits?
reece4vt 04/04/24 12:33 PM ET
He's basically a 12-15 minute player who was playing 30+
1980VT 04/04/24 10:52 AM ET
I always felt he would be the perfect 6th man
cburgroop 04/04/24 09:48 AM ET
I think you're correct. But how can Young afford to put a guy
WildTurkE 04/04/24 09:43 AM ET
Mike Young has always been honest with his players.
Chris ColemanAdmin 04/04/24 09:45 AM ET
In this day and age, a lot of people don't appreciate honesty. They want
atlhokie1 04/04/24 11:58 AM ET
Ok, then lie to them.
Chris ColemanAdmin 04/04/24 11:59 AM ET
Oh no, I agree with being honest. Just saying as a manager, a lot of
atlhokie1 04/04/24 12:04 PM ET
Who was he going to be sitting behind this year? I seem to have lost track.**
Hokie622 04/04/24 09:36 AM ET
Behind two guys we bring in through the portal.
Chris ColemanAdmin 04/04/24 09:38 AM ET
Some pretty strong evidence that we should hold nothing against these guys
Hokie622 04/04/24 09:44 AM ET
Yep, that's definitely true.
Chris ColemanAdmin 04/04/24 09:51 AM ET
Rodney Rice, most likely - nvm ... that was last year
Hokie Chief 04/04/24 09:38 AM ET
No, I'm talking about for next season.
Chris ColemanAdmin 04/04/24 09:39 AM ET
Right ... and I misread his original question
Hokie Chief 04/04/24 09:42 AM ET
This is the right answer**
HokieRat 04/04/24 09:31 AM ET
Sounds reasonable to me. At this point I'm not sure who he would be
santafe 04/04/24 09:31 AM ET
Probably Camden**
HokieBrazil 04/03/24 11:01 PM ET