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If NFL needed to cover endorsements in its CBA...

It could. It doesnt need to because teams aren't skirting the rules to pay athletes using endorsements at an exorbitant level. They couldnt keep their players from getting endorsements deals, but they could mandate any deals be reported and recorded to make investigating circumvention of the rules easy. The NCAA currently has this idea as a framework with the CSC, they just dont have the authority to do anything about it if they catch someone not reporting...so teams dont report. But a CBA gives you legal authority to create whatever penalties are agreed by both parties which can significantly reduce or eliminate that circumvention
Posted: 05/15/2026 at 12:26 PM ET
(In response to this post by BleedinOandM)

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Hokies get a commitment…
Rev.Zeke Vodka 05/14/26 05:45 PM ET
VT Football gets a commitment….
GretnaHokie 05/16/26 12:38 PM ET
Maybe not fair, but humorous. Got to admit. 😂**
HokieNL 05/16/26 02:46 PM ET
That was funny, yes.**
Will StewartAdmin 05/18/26 10:17 AM ET
We get it, you would see VT athletics burn just to get better basketball
HokieAl 05/15/26 04:02 PM ET
Show me…
Rev.Zeke Vodka 05/16/26 08:12 PM ET
Is that what happened to b-ball? Sorry, haven't kept up with it these days**
atlhokie1 06/27/26 06:37 PM ET
Yes. Whit allowed WHIT and PRY to be rewarded for their screwups - at the
TDVick 05/20/26 03:19 PM ET
There is no integrity in our AthDept "empty suits." This regime is
saret 05/16/26 10:57 PM ET
It will be interesting to see the management structure and
RJHokie 05/16/26 11:16 PM ET
I would expect that the changes will be more extensive next spring/summer
HokieAl 05/17/26 04:41 PM ET
Yep, it will be gradual.
Chris ColemanAdmin 05/18/26 09:09 AM ET
Just curious, do any of the AD employees work on contracts? And if so,
atlhokie1 06/27/26 06:38 PM ET
Other than perhaps the top two (Wurthman and Danny White), probably not. **
RJHokie 06/27/26 07:31 PM ET
Good points.
RJHokie 05/17/26 05:57 PM ET
I respect that. Thank you for the thoughts
HokieAl 05/16/26 10:41 PM ET
Genuinely...layoffs suck and Im sorry that happened to you
GCHokie34 05/17/26 11:46 AM ET
Thank you for the input
HokieAl 05/17/26 02:56 PM ET
Generally a good post. Reminds me of an article I read in
saret 05/17/26 04:00 PM ET
To answer your questions as they are...
GCHokie34 05/17/26 03:37 PM ET
We actually FOIAed his contract a couple of weeks back.
Chris ColemanAdmin 05/18/26 09:02 AM ET
Honestly makes sense knowing the context around it...
GCHokie34 05/18/26 09:20 AM ET
Sometimes I wonder if Mike Young would still be coaching here if
YBYSAIAHokie 05/17/26 04:27 PM ET
It took Greenberg nine years to get fired with 1 NCAAT.
Chris ColemanAdmin 05/18/26 08:50 AM ET
They wouldn't fire him for a winning record...
GCHokie34 05/17/26 04:36 PM ET
GC, thanks for this post, and your candor. **
saret 05/17/26 03:45 PM ET
Excellent post! Succinct, factual, and reasoned. **
saret 05/17/26 12:03 PM ET
And completely myopic…
marcbvtgm 05/17/26 12:33 PM ET
Do you believe the administration should promise x dollars, but then ...
Atlee Hokie 06/27/26 08:33 PM ET
The issue with that is we have seen the result of diverting money from
hokiehill1117 05/19/26 08:30 AM ET
By that standard than our other sports should be poorly funded, too.
Chris ColemanAdmin 05/18/26 08:56 AM ET
I could say the same thing about your position. Additionally, if I am
saret 05/17/26 01:27 PM ET
I tend to be football centric. That said ...
Atlee Hokie 06/27/26 08:47 PM ET
Thanks for the clarification. I understand and appreciate the
saret 06/27/26 08:53 PM ET
I wonder if he would respond to broken promises, with something like...
HokieNL 05/16/26 08:16 PM ET
Pete sees the light at the end of the tunnel and the purveyor is Franklin.
TomTurkey 06/25/26 04:51 PM ET
Not pretending to speak for @GCHokie34 , but the corollary
saret 05/15/26 05:55 PM ET
I believe the philosophy here is as follows:
VT ChemE 1986 05/16/26 12:31 PM ET
Or the best way to achieve it...
GCHokie34 05/16/26 09:56 PM ET
Oh, I agree with you re: the current policy. And, I agree with it to a
saret 05/16/26 01:24 PM ET
Yep, one thing I've been arguing for is a hoops-specific fundraiser.
Chris ColemanAdmin 05/18/26 09:25 AM ET
Scott is now in University Development.
RJHokie 06/25/26 05:26 PM ET
I know @VTCHIP is unique, but couldn't basketball have had ...
Atlee Hokie 05/18/26 09:53 AM ET
FWIW, they once had both for MBB.
I love VT! 05/19/26 08:01 AM ET
Do you know why they went away?
Atlee Hokie 05/19/26 09:29 AM ET
I've always been told it was the AthDept/HC that got rid/minimized those
saret 05/19/26 12:17 PM ET
We can't get a real AD soon enough.**
Atlee Hokie 05/19/26 12:48 PM ET
Well, it needs to be a full time paid position.
Chris ColemanAdmin 05/18/26 10:14 AM ET
Yeah, I'm kinda resigned to the fact that the "football first" crowd
saret 05/18/26 09:40 AM ET
I think "old school" will get his "pound of flesh" on the way out.
TomTurkey 05/18/26 12:33 PM ET
I hope you're right. If he just told/confirmed the screwing he took,
saret 05/18/26 12:51 PM ET
I think it'll be between him and them.
TomTurkey 05/18/26 03:22 PM ET
Oh, I agree. That's just "old school" CMY. Two years ago,
saret 05/19/26 12:14 PM ET
Teel shared that answer in the podcast. He spoke to CMY.
TomTurkey 05/19/26 12:25 PM ET
I think people should......
2hhoop3 06/25/26 04:15 PM ET
IMO, Teel definitely is now an apologist for Whit.**
Atlee Hokie 06/27/26 09:00 PM ET
Thanks. I didn't listen to the podcast.**
saret 05/19/26 12:43 PM ET
It's about 2/3 through it though its worth a full listen **
TomTurkey 05/19/26 12:53 PM ET
Agreed**
VT ChemE 1986 05/16/26 01:30 PM ET
Very familiar with the philosophy and the goal...
I love VT! 05/16/26 12:54 PM ET
Relatively speaking...
Chris ColemanAdmin 05/18/26 09:15 AM ET
If they didn't get it after playing in the National Championship...
GCHokie34 05/16/26 09:50 PM ET
Hence my (hard earned) skepticism. **
I love VT! 05/17/26 09:29 AM ET
Probably 4-5 yrs
VT ChemE 1986 05/16/26 01:16 PM ET
Praying you are right about the timeframe...and still...
I love VT! 05/16/26 01:42 PM ET
A ravenous predator is never sated.**
saret 05/16/26 01:46 PM ET
Easy position to take when you ain't the sport getting crapped on!**
saret 05/16/26 01:26 PM ET
It is what it is
VT ChemE 1986 05/16/26 01:29 PM ET
I understand your pragmatic thinking, just don't agree with the
saret 05/16/26 01:37 PM ET
On a positive note, WB is soon history and hopefully, MBB can get a better
ancient alien 2018 05/15/26 10:36 PM ET
I agree with your hope.**
saret 05/16/26 10:21 AM ET
Level set. You are talking success. I’m talking survival
HokieAl 05/15/26 06:52 PM ET
All that you say about your support of MBB may be true, yet you
saret 05/15/26 09:40 PM ET
Read it again. I am REVENUE biased
HokieAl 05/15/26 10:08 PM ET
Let's see, your lede says, "...you would see VT athletics burn just to get
saret 05/15/26 10:26 PM ET
So your last paragraph proves that you actually know that people who
I love VT! 05/15/26 09:39 PM ET
Read my words literally, not some made up assertion
HokieAl 05/15/26 10:15 PM ET
I HAVE read your posts. And, in general, I don't disagree with your
saret 05/16/26 09:40 AM ET
Your actual words: "We get it, you would see VT Athletics burn just to get
I love VT! 05/15/26 10:34 PM ET
Well said!**
saret 05/15/26 09:42 PM ET
The money has always gone to football...
GCHokie34 05/15/26 04:47 PM ET
What % do you think MBB/WBB and all other sports should get?**
Atlee Hokie 05/17/26 12:54 PM ET
How is making a 78 team MBB field that different from playing in a bowl?**
marcbvtgm 05/17/26 12:42 PM ET
Because 78 basketball teams out of 361...
GCHokie34 05/17/26 12:56 PM ET
Nonsense. 2/3 of those programs aren't even competitive with the top 100.
marcbvtgm 05/18/26 12:08 PM ET
VT isnt competing with 2/3 of the conferences for at-large bids...
GCHokie34 05/18/26 02:24 PM ET
Yet 8-10+ ACC teams will make the new BB field. 12 were bowl eligible.
marcbvtgm 05/19/26 09:23 AM ET
You keep moving the goal posts...
GCHokie34 05/19/26 11:48 AM ET
This is utter and complete myopic nonsense.**
marcbvtgm 06/25/26 03:32 PM ET
Lol...this might be the saddest post Ive ever seen on this site**
GCHokie34 06/25/26 11:23 PM ET
GC, good post. @marcbvtgm is just one of those football-centric
saret 05/19/26 12:21 PM ET
I'm myopic? That's rich on a VT basketball board.**
marcbvtgm 06/25/26 03:34 PM ET
Wow! Your response is a real blast from the past.
saret 06/25/26 03:59 PM ET
GC, not that you need/want my opinion, but, imho,
saret 05/17/26 01:30 PM ET
More than that, they should be exposed.**
Atlee Hokie 05/17/26 01:58 PM ET
It doesn’t help the discussion when you are overly dramatic
VT ChemE 1986 05/16/26 12:39 PM ET
Does past incompetence mean the program is doomed forever?
saret 05/16/26 01:35 PM ET
My hope is that we do for MBB what we have just done for FB
VT ChemE 1986 05/16/26 01:44 PM ET
So, we should just shut up and be patient?**
saret 05/16/26 02:02 PM ET
I think we should all manage our mental health
VT ChemE 1986 05/16/26 02:32 PM ET
No mental health problem here (although my friends might
saret 05/16/26 03:16 PM ET
I wonder if the powers that be read this board
VT ChemE 1986 05/16/26 03:28 PM ET
imo, they do not. They're hermetically sealed in Jamerson.
saret 05/16/26 05:11 PM ET
But we are such a source of wisdom!**
VT ChemE 1986 05/16/26 09:56 PM ET
The real indictment is that they're are better ideas on here than come from
saret 05/16/26 10:50 PM ET
This board would disappear if that happened 😊**
HokieNL 05/16/26 02:44 PM ET
Ha ha ha…
VT ChemE 1986 05/16/26 03:29 PM ET
"Coterie Diaper Bowl" 😂😂😂**
HokieNL 05/15/26 09:48 PM ET
"THE BENTLEY OF DIAPERS"!!!**
ancient alien 2018 05/15/26 10:33 PM ET
Bad football brings in between 4x-8x more revenue than basketball
HokieAl 05/15/26 05:13 PM ET
I can see how hoops might have a ceiling. But football WOULD have had
TDVick 05/20/26 03:41 PM ET
You just wrote "football should always get more investment because it
hokiehill1117 05/19/26 08:40 AM ET
Here's what the hoops folks are saying...
Chris ColemanAdmin 05/16/26 11:03 AM ET
This is a politician’s short-term line of thinking.
marcbvtgm 05/17/26 12:48 PM ET
Then they should have been up front with him about it.
Chris ColemanAdmin 05/18/26 08:44 AM ET
Ok, but that's moving the goalposts quite a bit.**
marcbvtgm 05/18/26 12:09 PM ET
Honestly with your coaches is a goal post that should never move.**
Chris ColemanAdmin 05/18/26 12:13 PM ET
Young is still at VT because MBB isn't getting more $$
marcbvtgm 05/19/26 09:32 AM ET
You are unbelievable.**
saret 05/19/26 12:23 PM ET
Do the people who are putting up the $ want their $ going to MBB?**
BROman Hokie 05/16/26 06:06 PM ET
None of us will ever know, because they don't communicate
saret 05/17/26 01:37 PM ET
Except the radical purists, nobody would lament a wrecking ball to Cassell.
Maroon Effect 05/16/26 03:17 PM ET
You don't have to be a radical purist to recognize there will be things we
I love VT! 05/16/26 04:16 PM ET
We also aren't even trying anymore to maximize what Cassell can bring in...
I love VT! 05/16/26 01:18 PM ET
I remember attending concerts in Cassell
saret 05/16/26 01:44 PM ET
We can barely hold a basketball game in Cassell these days...
I love VT! 05/16/26 01:51 PM ET
You may be right about all that, but (And there's going to be more to come.
saret 05/16/26 01:58 PM ET
There's evidence they are working on it...
I love VT! 05/16/26 02:04 PM ET
I don't really disagree with what you're saying, and I agree that the
saret 05/16/26 03:10 PM ET
I hesitated to even say anything because I know that unless you are
I love VT! 05/16/26 03:57 PM ET
A broken clock is correct twice a day. The Franklin hire was/is
saret 05/16/26 05:14 PM ET
Yes, but….
VT ChemE 1986 05/16/26 12:44 PM ET
In $$ amount how much is needed to get the MBB program on solid footing? In
40ozDistrict 05/16/26 12:34 PM ET
Just FYI, concessions are outsourced to Aramark via contract.
saret 05/16/26 01:48 PM ET
Remember where this thread started. Frustration about a football player NIL
HokieAl 05/16/26 11:59 AM ET
So, so non-football fans should just accept it, admit defeat,
saret 05/16/26 01:53 PM ET
Once again, lack of vision, lack of action, lack of leadership bites us
saret 05/16/26 11:08 AM ET
I'll accept your figures, because they sound about right.
saret 05/15/26 06:01 PM ET
lmao!!!! Dohhh!! 60,000 compared to 8000 4th grade math**
ancient alien 2018 05/15/26 05:42 PM ET
Not a single person is saying otherwise**
GCHokie34 05/15/26 05:38 PM ET
Rev, put down the vodka :)
Glen Allen Hokie 05/15/26 01:22 PM ET
Stole all that money and all we get is a quarter back**
GCHokie34 05/15/26 09:12 AM ET
Maybe the plan is to generate so much $$ with football that MBB can be
40ozDistrict 05/15/26 10:20 AM ET
Let me know when football says "yep. We have enough money now. We're good "
I love VT! 05/15/26 09:43 PM ET
Let me know when football says that. I don't want to miss it.**
saret 05/16/26 11:09 AM ET
Football's a bottomless pit. Florida's coach just said he needs $15 mil
Hokies81 05/15/26 11:06 AM ET
Something has got to give. **
40ozDistrict 05/15/26 04:58 PM ET
I hope I live long enough to see college athletics burn down.**
Atlee Hokie 05/15/26 12:09 PM ET
I keep wondering if collective bargaining will really help....
BleedinOandM 05/15/26 11:59 AM ET
Well, one thing that could be done re: NIL is for
saret 05/15/26 06:10 PM ET
Ain't a gonna be happenin' 😐**
HokieNL 05/15/26 09:51 PM ET
Oh, I know that. Schools/AthDepts/Coaches want to be involved so they can
saret 05/15/26 10:03 PM ET
That's a great point. GC's answer gives me hope, but it's the NCAA, so....
vtbball80 05/15/26 12:44 PM ET
If NFL needed to cover endorsements in its CBA...
GCHokie34 05/15/26 12:26 PM ET
This is really helpful. Thanks...glad you are on this board.**
BleedinOandM 05/15/26 01:00 PM ET
Thanks for the insight. A CBA including NIL gives me hope, but.....
vtbball80 05/15/26 12:48 PM ET
A CBA would seemingly require involved parties have a mutual desire
saret 05/17/26 12:10 PM ET
I bet it works out like that this time...
GCHokie34 05/15/26 10:23 AM ET
Dang, wish I had thought of that myself…
Rev.Zeke Vodka 05/15/26 10:08 AM ET
Gotta have 5 expensive qbs and no basketball team
fakehokiestolenvalor 05/15/26 01:15 AM ET
Our own Fab Five!!!**
Tuckahokie 05/15/26 06:37 AM ET
Didn't know Peter Bourque was a hoops phenom too!!**
ancient alien 2018 05/14/26 10:41 PM ET
The next Charlie Ward?**
UpperQuad 05/15/26 12:27 PM ET
That's a bit disappointing...
HokieJonez 05/15/26 09:02 AM ET
Rev, being a tease. We can wait and hope for something special.**
KiloZulu 05/14/26 05:49 PM ET
Peter Bourque is his name**
ancient alien 2018 05/14/26 11:00 PM ET