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Rev.Zeke Vodka
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As stated by GC..

Limit the exposure which would most likely limit value on the open market. I have a coaching buddy who has taken a somewhat unusual position his entire coaching career where prospects are concerned. Once he locked onto a prospect he loved or perhaps unearthed, he would pull like crazy for the player to lay a complete egg any time the prospect played during an open evaluation period in front of college coaches. He sincerely wanted the player to not just not play well, but he wanted the player to be awful. Has never strayed from that position to this day. In fact, Virginia Tech signed a player some time ago under very similar circumstances and that was Coleman Collins. He played on a fairly low hanging fruit team based in Atlanta, coached by Benjamin Miller. Tech had been given a heads up on Coleman by a scout they trusted and Mark Cline had gone out and watched Coleman in a very small AAU event. Then, during an open Tournament in July, Coleman played with this Atlanta All Stars team, Benjamin’s team. Coach Stokes was seeing Coleman for the first time at this event and I remember being there. I watched all of Coleman’s three games at this event. Scores of coaches in attendance, Calipari, Coach K. The word had gotten out and he was a secret no longer. It was in fact an overflow crowd and I would guess 90-95 % of the coaches in attendance were there to see this late blossoming, totally unknown Big. Coleman wasn’t even in the top 500 of any online scouting entity. None. He was a genuinely, completely unknown prospect at the time of this July event. The good thing is Coleman played poorly, very poorly in fact in game 1. In his second game he played a little better but still not very well. The number of coaches had significantly dwindled in game 2 due to his game 1 performance. In fact, I recall Calipari getting up and leaving at the end of the 3rd Q in game 1. By game 3, wasn’t very many coaches at all. But it then was a good news/bad news situation. Competition had been understandably scared off by Coleman’s poor performances and that was a good thing for Tech. But the bad news was Coach Stokes had never seen Coleman before and he was unimpressed. Also understandably. He was not at all ready to offer Coleman. In fact, I thought we wouldn’t offer because Coach Stokes just hadn’t seen enough to merit an offer. Coleman’s offers to that point had been small schools, mostly all low D-1 schools. But Mark Cline was dogged in convincing Ricky to trust him and we had to offer before bigger schools would go watch his workouts post-July and would eventually see the talent Coleman possessed and they would offer. And Cline was able to do so, Ricky trusted his assistant coach and Tech locked him down in August and Coleman visited in early September just to clinch things and it was over. Ricky was quite reluctant but Cline just persisted and persisted and fortunately for Tech wore him down eventually and the story ended happily. ** Edited by Rev.Zeke Vodka at 11/6/2025, 12:52:02 PM
Posted: 11/06/2025 at 12:26 PM ET
(In response to this post by jms41)

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I'm curious how the addition of Dorn will shuffle our lineups relative to
hokiehill1117 11/05/25 01:14 PM ET
Not sure Gurdaklooks pretty good so far**
Nelsonia Hokie 11/05/25 05:45 PM ET
Hold on there champ.Looking good vs small opponents isn’t a good barometer.**
marcbvtgm 11/07/25 10:36 AM ET
Who has Dorn looked good against?**
Nelsonia Hokie 11/07/25 11:54 AM ET
What does that have to do with anything?**
marcbvtgm 11/07/25 01:59 PM ET
Gurdak's play makes frontcourt foul trouble less of a concern to me**
delmarva hokie 11/05/25 03:58 PM ET
My prediction: VT will have a primary 3 man forward rotation
VT ChemE 1986 11/05/25 01:31 PM ET
Gurdack was better than I expected
EDGEMAN 11/05/25 02:21 PM ET
Not excited yet. See how Gurdack does vs a fair big man (see Providence)**
UTPr0sim 11/06/25 08:49 PM ET
Gurdak is going to be the one VT needs to keep in the coming classes
GCHokie34 11/05/25 04:51 PM ET
So how do you do that?
jms41 11/06/25 01:22 AM ET
As stated by GC..
Rev.Zeke Vodka 11/06/25 12:26 PM ET
The bad news in this story was that Ricky Stokes was our coach. 🙈**
VPI63 11/07/25 02:55 AM ET
nvm..
Rev.Zeke Vodka 11/07/25 02:39 PM ET
Crazy. Now needed after signing due to NIL.**
jms41 11/06/25 01:26 PM ET
No shade on Coleman but he did have a wildly inconsistent career**
AnotherTechW 11/06/25 01:07 PM ET
To a point yes, unless context is provided…
Rev.Zeke Vodka 11/06/25 01:23 PM ET
Thank you for that - I do recall his father illness and death**
AnotherTechW 11/06/25 02:02 PM ET
I think all but the last part
GCHokie34 11/06/25 09:56 AM ET
I was so impressed with the space Gurdak was creating for his teammates **
OrlandoHokie 11/05/25 09:14 PM ET
I had a soft spot for Patrick Wessler,
VT ChemE 1986 11/05/25 07:32 PM ET
i dont think most freshman center look or play like CG. **
AnotherTechW 11/06/25 10:34 AM ET
The Jason Haynes of VT**
GCHokieof91 11/05/25 06:46 PM ET
Would love to see Hammonds and Gurdak both stay. Paul VI guys that both
vt90 11/05/25 05:33 PM ET
Freeman needs 20 lbs in the weight room and kitchen esp at that height.
chagerma 11/06/25 01:40 PM ET
Wasn’t it Calipari that said Gurdak
804Hokie 11/05/25 05:30 PM ET
CMY said he has good hands.**
TomTurkey 11/05/25 05:10 PM ET
Agree on Gurdack!**
A3genhokie 11/05/25 04:45 PM ET