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1980VT
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Doing the right thing can be hard.

First thing, I was never a boy scout and never considered myself better than anyone else. I just had parents (career Air Force dad) who pushed my brothers / sisters and me that doing the right thing is hard, but it's easier to live this way when difficult decisions are needed. There are many coaches who use NCAA rules as suggestions that they don't want to be caught doing. Crossing the line over little things is not problem in their view. But, I hope there are more than a few coaches lead the way they preach. I was a HS BB coach in Va late 80's ~ early 90's. I had my best team in all my years at this school 1990-91. One player on this team was a better student than BB player. He was re-taking Pre-Calculus that he got a D in previous year. His counselor recommended this for college transcripts. Second semester (Jan) started with him taking this class plus 2 others (block scheduling) and a study hall. The re-take didn't count as a class for VHSL eligibility purposes since he already passed it previously. So, he was only enrolled in 2 classes that fell under VHSL credit rules. He needed at least 3 classes. He was ineligible 2nd semester. Tough part, new counselor who took over for the other one due to having a baby, discovered this the last week of the season. Counselor said she could forget about it since it was so late in the season. I said no, let's figure out with AD and Principal what's next. We were 8-1 2nd semester, in 2nd place. He played in 4 of the wins because they were blowouts. We forfeited those 4 wins to drop us to 5th place out of 8 teams. Tournament time we lost in 2nd round of district tournament, season ends. I was surprised by a lot of reactions I got. Players (just about whole team) couldn't understand why we would just not tell VHSL. I got angry comments, in a team / parents meeting, from all but a couple of parents. I had other coaches at school who told me that I had more guts than they did. Luckily, we didn't have social media back then. Every team I had coached had a list of rules they and their parents signed. Rule #1 was always DO THE RIGHT THING. Following rules is part of the right thing, whether it seems fair or not.
Posted: 07/18/2024 at 09:55 AM ET
(In response to this post by win-tech)

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Scheyer says all portal transfers were illegally tampered with (Link)
Hokester 07/17/24 08:40 AM ET
Calipari on Line 1 with KBrooks holding on Line 2...**
SCHokie80 07/20/24 11:35 AM ET
Every coach lies and cheats. That will help you understand.
NokieHokie 07/19/24 08:55 AM ET
Being "holier than thou" must be terrible burden, poor Dukies.**
Lancelot Link 07/18/24 04:14 PM ET
Oh boo hoo
HokiesACC2004 07/18/24 05:57 AM ET
Yeah. MY eats popcorn. Couldn’t possibly cheat. **
Pride_and_Joy 07/17/24 02:09 PM ET
Just like Buzz was squeaky clean … not.
1980VT 07/17/24 06:31 PM ET
Buzz was and is a giant cheater.
Pride_and_Joy 07/18/24 02:18 AM ET
Most every D1 coach likely breaks the rules at times
win-tech 07/18/24 07:53 AM ET
How can they break rules. Most don't know what the rules are!!**
MR TECH 07/20/24 11:21 AM ET
LOL. And you are probably right.
win-tech 07/20/24 06:40 PM ET
Doing the right thing can be hard.
1980VT 07/18/24 09:55 AM ET
Congratulations. Did you get fired from coaching following the season? **
Pride_and_Joy 07/18/24 02:45 PM ET
Nope, coached 3 more years, then took over as AD for next 15 years**
1980VT 07/18/24 05:30 PM ET
Right. Different stakes for winning and not winning
Pride_and_Joy 07/18/24 07:36 PM ET
well define tampering
Vippie1 07/17/24 12:48 PM ET
Coach K spent his career 'tampering' with refs during games.
The_Phew 07/19/24 08:26 AM ET
He also claims, puzzlingly, that it's "is simply part of the game" now
Zanderhokie 07/17/24 01:23 PM ET
Why can’t it be both?
Pride_and_Joy 07/17/24 02:11 PM ET
Because the two things are mutually exclusive
Zanderhokie 07/17/24 02:47 PM ET
Speeding is routine and illegal
Pylons 07/17/24 05:50 PM ET
It’s a common illegal act. It’s both.
Pride_and_Joy 07/17/24 03:57 PM ET
I doubt anyone is really above the
Pylons 07/17/24 11:23 AM ET
Ah schutt. It does seem a little
GCHokieof91 07/17/24 10:38 AM ET
Yep he’s a whiner…nba gifted porter to him
HOKIEGOBBLE 07/18/24 05:08 PM ET
Some of the guys guys that left Duke apparently left before Scheyer could
VT One 07/17/24 10:32 AM ET
do we have another Dabo type here
1947Sunbowl 07/17/24 09:47 AM ET
There’s a reason K, Roy, and Boeheim left. Same w Saban.
3TechFanz 07/17/24 10:23 AM ET
Because they were really, really old? **
Pride_and_Joy 07/17/24 02:12 PM ET
And tired of the crap**
Hokie`79 07/19/24 08:06 AM ET
Same was discussed on the Sabre when the quote came out
wahoo2023 07/17/24 09:17 AM ET
Proably 50 % of kids who transfer are “ tampered “ with in one way or
uber hokie 07/17/24 12:08 PM ET
Only common sense and human nature.**
TomTurkey 07/17/24 01:04 PM ET
"contacted" and "working the lines all year long"
Pylons 07/17/24 11:25 AM ET