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Doing the right thing can be hard.
First thing, I was never a boy scout and never considered myself better than anyone else. I just had parents (career Air Force dad) who pushed my brothers / sisters and me that doing the right thing is hard, but it's easier to live this way when difficult decisions are needed.
There are many coaches who use NCAA rules as suggestions that they don't want to be caught doing. Crossing the line over little things is not problem in their view. But, I hope there are more than a few coaches lead the way they preach.
I was a HS BB coach in Va late 80's ~ early 90's. I had my best team in all my years at this school 1990-91.
One player on this team was a better student than BB player. He was re-taking Pre-Calculus that he got a D in previous year. His counselor recommended this for college transcripts. Second semester (Jan) started with him taking this class plus 2 others (block scheduling) and a study hall. The re-take didn't count as a class for VHSL eligibility purposes since he already passed it previously. So, he was only enrolled in 2 classes that fell under VHSL credit rules. He needed at least 3 classes. He was ineligible 2nd semester.
Tough part, new counselor who took over for the other one due to having a baby, discovered this the last week of the season. Counselor said she could forget about it since it was so late in the season. I said no, let's figure out with AD and Principal what's next.
We were 8-1 2nd semester, in 2nd place. He played in 4 of the wins because they were blowouts. We forfeited those 4 wins to drop us to 5th place out of 8 teams. Tournament time we lost in 2nd round of district tournament, season ends.
I was surprised by a lot of reactions I got. Players (just about whole team) couldn't understand why we would just not tell VHSL. I got angry comments, in a team / parents meeting, from all but a couple of parents. I had other coaches at school who told me that I had more guts than they did. Luckily, we didn't have social media back then.
Every team I had coached had a list of rules they and their parents signed. Rule #1 was always DO THE RIGHT THING. Following rules is part of the right thing, whether it seems fair or not.
Thread Replies (33)
Scheyer says all portal transfers were illegally tampered with (Link)
-- Hokester
Jul 17, 2024 at 08:40 AM ET
Hokester
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07/17/24 08:40 AM ET
Calipari on Line 1 with KBrooks holding on Line 2...**
-- SCHokie80
Jul 20, 2024 at 11:35 AM ET
SCHokie80
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07/20/24 11:35 AM ET
Every coach lies and cheats. That will help you understand.
-- NokieHokie
Jul 19, 2024 at 08:55 AM ET
NokieHokie
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07/19/24 08:55 AM ET
Being "holier than thou" must be terrible burden, poor Dukies.**
-- Lancelot Link
Jul 18, 2024 at 04:14 PM ET
Lancelot Link
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07/18/24 04:14 PM ET
Yeah. MY eats popcorn. Couldn’t possibly cheat. **
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jul 17, 2024 at 02:09 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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07/17/24 02:09 PM ET
Just like Buzz was squeaky clean … not.
-- 1980VT
Jul 17, 2024 at 06:31 PM ET
1980VT
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07/17/24 06:31 PM ET
Buzz was and is a giant cheater.
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jul 18, 2024 at 02:18 AM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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07/18/24 02:18 AM ET
Most every D1 coach likely breaks the rules at times
-- win-tech
Jul 18, 2024 at 07:53 AM ET
win-tech
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07/18/24 07:53 AM ET
How can they break rules. Most don't know what the rules are!!**
-- MR TECH
Jul 20, 2024 at 11:21 AM ET
MR TECH
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07/20/24 11:21 AM ET
LOL. And you are probably right.
-- win-tech
Jul 20, 2024 at 06:40 PM ET
win-tech
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07/20/24 06:40 PM ET
Doing the right thing can be hard.
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-- 1980VT
Jul 18, 2024 at 09:55 AM ET
1980VT
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07/18/24 09:55 AM ET
Congratulations. Did you get fired from coaching following the season? **
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jul 18, 2024 at 02:45 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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07/18/24 02:45 PM ET
Nope, coached 3 more years, then took over as AD for next 15 years**
-- 1980VT
Jul 18, 2024 at 05:30 PM ET
1980VT
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07/18/24 05:30 PM ET
Right. Different stakes for winning and not winning
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jul 18, 2024 at 07:36 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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07/18/24 07:36 PM ET
Coach K spent his career 'tampering' with refs during games.
-- The_Phew
Jul 19, 2024 at 08:26 AM ET
The_Phew
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07/19/24 08:26 AM ET
He also claims, puzzlingly, that it's "is simply part of the game" now
-- Zanderhokie
Jul 17, 2024 at 01:23 PM ET
Zanderhokie
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07/17/24 01:23 PM ET
Why can’t it be both?
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jul 17, 2024 at 02:11 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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07/17/24 02:11 PM ET
Because the two things are mutually exclusive
-- Zanderhokie
Jul 17, 2024 at 02:47 PM ET
Zanderhokie
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07/17/24 02:47 PM ET
It’s a common illegal act. It’s both.
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jul 17, 2024 at 03:57 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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07/17/24 03:57 PM ET
I doubt anyone is really above the
-- Pylons
Jul 17, 2024 at 11:23 AM ET
Pylons
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07/17/24 11:23 AM ET
Ah schutt. It does seem a little
-- GCHokieof91
Jul 17, 2024 at 10:38 AM ET
GCHokieof91
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07/17/24 10:38 AM ET
Yep he’s a whiner…nba gifted porter to him
-- HOKIEGOBBLE
Jul 18, 2024 at 05:08 PM ET
HOKIEGOBBLE
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07/18/24 05:08 PM ET
Some of the guys guys that left Duke apparently left before Scheyer could
-- VT One
Jul 17, 2024 at 10:32 AM ET
VT One
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07/17/24 10:32 AM ET
do we have another Dabo type here
-- 1947Sunbowl
Jul 17, 2024 at 09:47 AM ET
1947Sunbowl
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07/17/24 09:47 AM ET
There’s a reason K, Roy, and Boeheim left. Same w Saban.
-- 3TechFanz
Jul 17, 2024 at 10:23 AM ET
3TechFanz
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07/17/24 10:23 AM ET
Because they were really, really old? **
-- Pride_and_Joy
Jul 17, 2024 at 02:12 PM ET
Pride_and_Joy
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07/17/24 02:12 PM ET
Same was discussed on the Sabre when the quote came out
-- wahoo2023
Jul 17, 2024 at 09:17 AM ET
wahoo2023
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07/17/24 09:17 AM ET
Proably 50 % of kids who transfer are “ tampered “ with in one way or
-- uber hokie
Jul 17, 2024 at 12:08 PM ET
uber hokie
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07/17/24 12:08 PM ET
Only common sense and human nature.**
-- TomTurkey
Jul 17, 2024 at 01:04 PM ET
TomTurkey
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07/17/24 01:04 PM ET
"contacted" and "working the lines all year long"
-- Pylons
Jul 17, 2024 at 11:25 AM ET
Pylons
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07/17/24 11:25 AM ET