I can't just take your word for it because you're making a statement based on feeling In the Greenberg era, 6 ACC teams made the Final 4 over the course of 9 tournaments For Buzz, it was 5 in 5 tournaments For Mike Young, it has been 3 in 3 tournaments Seems pretty even there Only one of the three won an ACC Tournament...and did so by beating TWO Final 4 teams from the same season. So maybe your next argument will be that basketball overall is down? It's ok to realize that Buzz wasn't the savior of the program he is painted to be. He had relatively the same amount of success as most other coaches who have come to Blacksburg. I hate that triggers you somehow, but it's ok to move on