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U2Hokie U2Hokie OP
Jul 07, 2026 at 10:13 PM ET
Baseball pitch metric guru's - is there a measureable for a pitchers late
movement on pitches - I have not found one and it seems valuable for obvious reasons...I read about "late breaking slider" or "drops off the table split" - but are pitch labs measuring it yet?? Tunneling measure is pretty cool fore the release - but that late breaker is so hard to actually hit hard...

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QCP
I don't think there is anything that tracks movement over last x feet...
but I think the Swing Timing + Miss Distance tracking is a decent proxy as it shows which pitchers miss bats by the greatest distance which can be indicative of late/deceptive movement. Your question/idea is an interesting one as I would assume there is a way that they could track break in a subset of the overall distance the pitch traveled to show which pitchers have the most late break.
U2Hokie U2Hokie OP
@qcp I am almost 100% certain it is tracked by teams with high trust in new
metrics - but it just has not hit the main stream or could be considered "confidential/proprietary"... I think they have all the data and I agree that there is a potential proxy - but that could also include tunnel factor and pitch selection. Keep up the great work QCP! Only pitch I had rated a 1 by Houston was a late breaker and got tons of grounders on...moved late down and away from righties but tunneled my fastball till the last 10 ft...rest of my sstuff was average AA stuff...then shoulder fell apart - lol!
U2Hokie U2Hokie OP
Also - the closest Im seeing is IVB and HB which are from release point to
plate - the whole distance - but nothing on break for the last 20 ft or so? IVB - induced vertical break HB - horizontal break