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However, they are certain he will be fired anyway and have some heavy hitter supporters to support whatever direction the decide to go in according to their board. Recently spent 400 million on new football only building & other stadium infrastructure. They are sure it would attract anyone they want. I think they will fire Norvell. The question is will their ego allow them to hire a coach that is purported unable to win the big games but has a 70% win record.

2006 Northwestern 4–8 2–6 T–8th 2007 Northwestern 6–6 3–5 T–7th 2008 Northwestern 9–4 5–3 T–4th L Alamo 2009 Northwestern 8–5 5–3 T–4th L Outback 2010 Northwestern 7–6 3–5 T–7th L TicketCity 2011 Northwestern 6–7 3–5 5th (Legends) L Meineke Car Care 2012 Northwestern 10–3 5–3 3rd (Legends) W Gator 16 17 2013 Northwestern 5–7 1–7 6th (Legends) 2014 Northwestern 5–7 3–5 6th (West) 2015 Northwestern 10–3 6–2 T–2nd (West) L Outback 22 23 2016 Northwestern 7–6 5–4 T–4th (West) W Pinstripe 2017 Northwestern 10–3 7–2 2nd (West) W Music City 17 17 2018 Northwestern 9–5 8–1 1st (West) W Holiday 19 21 2019 Northwestern 3–9 1–8 7th (West) 2020 Northwestern 7–2 6–1 1st (West) W Citrus 10 10 2021 Northwestern 3–9 1–8 T-6th (West) 2022 Northwestern 1–11 1–8 7th (West) Northwestern: 110–101 65–76 Total: 110–101 FORGET 2022 THE YEAR AFTER HE WAS FIRED

Somehow, constant pessimism sucks. And a wonderful ray of sunshine is really refreshing. Keep it up! Bring it. It just might be catching one day. Maybe, just maybe, if we exude that old Hokie Spirit the team will catch a little of it and surprise us all. It's got to start somewhere. Why not JonnyHawk. Go Hokies! Go JonnyHawk!

Sometimes you get what you wish for and have some regrets when the gauntlet you have to run makes your ambition further out of reach. You have to play many more tough games in conference to get to the end goal. Just maybe the easier gauntlet in the ACC is the main reason they have had great success in the past MAKING THE BIG GAME.

Talk about v necks some other time. Focus!!!!!!!!!!!! Folks

Clemson Tigernet Message Board Post Jim Williams @JWMediaDC Spoke to an administrator at Clemson about Stanford, Cal and SMU. " We are going through a process on the adding of these 3 fine potential members. Look we are not going to block any deal that brings more money to the conference and adds teams that brings value. We think that could be the case w/ Stanford, Cal and SMU however we are not there yet. We will continue to work to do what is the best interest of Clemson and the ACC."

REPORT: Florida State 'Most Likely' Not Leaving ACC Prior To August 15 Deadline The Seminoles may take the next year to devise an exit strategy ahead of potential ACC departure. KADE KIMBLE 3 HOURS AGO HOME NOLE GAMEDAY FLORIDA STATE SEMINOLES COLLEGE FOOTBALL The relationship between Florida State and the ACC isn't in the best of places right now. FSU has even put pressure on the conference, as the program needs adequate resources to dominate the college football scene. Florida State President Richard McCullough and the Board of Trustees made their position clear a few weeks ago. "I believe FSU, at some point, will have to very seriously consider leaving the ACC unless there was a radical change to the revenue distribution," McCullough said. In the meantime, FSU has plenty of obstacles in the way of a potential departure, including a media deal between the conference and ESPN through 2036. The Athletic's Nicole Auerbach reported on Monday that an ACC team wanting to depart next season would have to give notice by Aug. 15, which FSU has yet to do. The reasons for Florida State's unrest can be made obvious as Auerbach pointed out that Boston College will be receiving the same share of revenue as Florida State. "FSU is set for the same payout from the conference as Boston College, despite vast differences in the two athletic departments' investment in revenue-generating sports and large gaps in the number of eyeballs they draw for football games," Auerbach wrote. Again, if the Seminoles want to depart from the conference, they've got hurdles they've got to jump. According to Auerbach, the most 'likely outcome' at this hour is that the Seminoles don't make a move on Tuesday. By not rushing any decision to leave the conference, FSU gives themselves time to make the correct decision. The Big Ten and SEC are two potential landing spots for the program, and deciding between the two and getting an offer on the table will be important to give the university leverage when trying to get out of the ACC. "One trustee suggested earlier this month that FSU give itself a year to figure out its exit strategy from the ACC," Auerbach writes. "That could be the best option right now." Regardless, Florida State can't wait to make a move much longer or risk further falling behind the programs in the SEC and Big Ten that are raking in serious cash thanks to media deals.

This was on Clemson tiger net & seems to be insider on one of the B1G teams. Take it for what you will. He sure sounds authentic relative to the info and it makes a whole lot of sense. Long read but worth it………………. Big Ten information. College football fan @Genetics56 1: Clemson and Florida State are waiting for the "signal" to leave. I don't know when that signal will be sent. The signal is essentially the Big Ten and the network partners telling Florida State and Clemson that they are ready to add a southern swing of schools. Big Ten commish can't just call and say "hey, it's time for your offer." FSU has a "home." The presidents of the schools will tell him to go and add the others after conversations with FOX/NBC/CBS. The networks want it. It isn't going to be just two schools down south when this is done. Target should be anywhere from 2 at first and then up to 4 or 5. The additions outside of FSU and Clemson will have to come in at a very low number like OR/WA did. so they will go to 20, but it isn't known how quickly they will go to more than 20 because of the GOR issues/cost that other schools will have. so this may have to be a long, bleeding process before it is in it's completed form. I'm told that the Big Ten would like to get UNC but they know that may not happen. The talk of UNC and UVA as the top targets or moved onto those two schools is not true. UVA has no shot at a Big Ten invite right now because FOX will not pay for it, just like they are not willing to pay for Cal and Stanford. FOX wants regional brands and rivalries in all regions to broadcast on their channels and the same with CBS and NBC. FOX is going to try and retain all content under their "umbrella" so they own the assets. From my understanding, rights will be acquired. What the expense is and who has to send the check, I don't know. 2: I was told several high level decision makers at Clemson would prefer to go to the Big Ten. They will have no issue of going to the SEC if they can't get into the Big Ten. There have been several back channel communications. Of course the Big Ten presidents want to move slower but FOX wants it done as quickly as they can. 3: FOX already knew the Pac-12 was going to implode several weeks before Colorado announced for the Big 12. FOX was ready to communicate to the Big Ten to get things going. Go back to when the Big Ten commish spoke at media days. He didn't say anything about not adding anymore schools for a reason. He just said the presidents didn't authorize him to do it (yet). The presidents of the Big Ten schools did not want to add those two schools for several years but had to do it now or lose them for the long-term. Many in the Big Ten are very, very happy with the last 4 conference additions. Now it's a matter of timing for when they add the southern wing to the conference. They want to be THE national conference and outside forces are not gong to be able to prevent that from happening. 4: The OR/WA ordeal was closer to falling apart than the public knows. They estimate that it will cost $10M annually in travel costs alone and having a payout of $30M, they will have fewer dollars to spend on other resources. FOX would only give them 1 million dollars annually for travel expenses, which is not the normal process. Usually a network will never agree to something like this. That goes to show how strong the relationship is between FOX and the Big Ten. It's a very healthy relationship. 5: There was no push back from USC and UCLA leaders for adding OR/WA even when they are not voting members. They don't view OR/WA additions will impact USC's ability to be the dominant brand out west. 6: There are serious conversations, at least at the athletic department level, for going to 10 conference games. 7: ESPN does not want to lose the ACC. That's been made clear by many communications among people. But they will also not pay a boat load of new money because they don't have the money to do it and don't have the authorization to do it. 8: The Big Ten isn't viewing Notre Dame as a must get to accomplish the national conference goal. That wasn't the case last summer as they tried to get Notre Dame to join. The Big Ten and network partners are not worried about what the other conferences and networks do. They have complete control of the biggest brands out west, have the big brands in the Big Ten, will get their southern swing accomplished, and then later will get into Texas. There's nobody paying anyone to try and get any result. ESPN can't do anything unless their bosses sign off on it and right now they don't have authorization to make any new tv deals, etc.

Just discount that. It is an obvious error. They were horrible and last anyway even if it should have been there.

Problem NC State vs. VT north carolina has 2 million more people The population of north Carolina is 10.6 million vs 8.6 million in Virginia. SEC/ESPN will be looking for the one with most potential viewers i.e. value. I wish like heck you were right But I don't think it has to do with records etc. It is total possible viewers in the state they are trying to capture which they consider the best value. It is no longer how rabid your fans are or your record. Its about viewership translated into value. This we cannot control with such a disparity in population in the coverage area. They have simply 2 million more possibilities of viewership. This is where it is important to look at VT & NC State actual viewership overall, which is a measured commodity. The winner here probably gets the yes vote if it is between the two. it's close folks. It will be a close decision. But it is far, far from a sure thing for VT relative to something that is out of our hands. HERE ARE THE FACTS THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT FOOTBALL VIEWERSHIP ONLY: From 2013 - the league’s 14 football members, through 2021, 74 conference games drew TV audiences of at least 2.0 million. That number does not include 2020, when pandemic concerns prompted scores of cancellations and postponements. Among those 74 games, Clemson was involved in 33, Florida State 29, Miami 15, and Virginia Tech 12. N.C. State was next with 10, followed by Syracuse nine, Louisville seven, North Carolina and Georgia Tech six, Virginia, Pitt and Wake Forest five, Boston College four, Duke and Maryland one.

The population of north Carolina is 10.6 million vs 8.6 million in Virginia. SEC/ESPN will be looking for the one with most potential viewers i.e. value. I wish like heck you were right But I don't think it has to do with records etc. It is total possible viewers in the state they are trying to capture which they consider the best value. It is no longer how rabid your fans are or your record. Its about viewership translated into value. This we cannot control with such a disparity in population in the coverage area. They have simply 2 million more possibilities of viewership. This is where it is important to look at VT & NC State actual viewership overall, which is a measured commodity. The winner here probably gets the yes vote if it is between the two It will be a close decision. But it is far, far from a sure thing for VT relative to something that is out of our hands. HERE ARE THE FACTS THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT: 2014 thru 2022 average regular season viewership average: VT - 1.92 million NC State 1.65 million However, 2022 was a disaster for VT in the latest recorded year due ro our record. VT - 264,000 thousand NC State 881,000 thousand Below is the 2022 top to bottom regular season viewership for all ACC teams average:

B1G SEC BIG 12 ACC 2022 $57.2 $54.3 $40.6 $30.9 2023 $58.9 $56.0 $41.8 $36.3 2024 $73.0 $57.6 $43.1 $37.9 2025 $75.2 $74.9 $44.3 $39.6 2026 $86.5 $96.4 $47.5 $48.6 2027 $89.1 $99.3 $49.0 $50.7 2028 $91.8 $102.3 $50.4 $52.9 2029 $94.5 $105.3 $51.9 $55.3

as of Aug 7, 2023 B1G SEC BIG 12 ACC 2022 $57.2 $54.3 $40.6 $30.9 2023 $58.9 $56.0 $41.8 $36.3 2024 $73.0 $57.6 $43.1 $37.9 2025 $75.2 $74.9 $44.3 $39.6 2026 $86.5 $96.4 $47.5 $48.6 2027 $89.1 $99.3 $49.0 $50.7 2028 $91.8 $102.3 $50.4 $52.9 2029 $94.5 $105.3 $51.9 $55.3

After a 2 hour emotional ceremony honoring the 3 players under the banner UVA strong Coach Elliott spoke these words. "We will turn tragedy into triumph" to the audience and players. They are coming alright. And they will be rabid & hard to beat. They will be on a mission to honor the fallen. It's going to be tough. The memorial was very well done. This is the old win one for the gipper story and we are going to be what they are coming after with incredible emotion in trying to honor their guys. This is going to be tough. Everyone will be in their corner & we are what stands in the way of triumph for the fallen. This is a no win situation. We lose & everyone but us is happy. We win and we are the bad guys. Awful situation for all our guys especially the seniors.