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jhs93

Evidence I want? Mathematical analysis

Something that would show, for example, SEC teams overperforming their underlying metrics/expected win rate compared to teams from other conferences (and data that shows that beneficial refereeing leads to that).
Posted: 03/28/2023 at 09:28 PM ET
(In response to this post by Italian Stallion)

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Why does everyone get so testy about the idea that refs can be......
jonnyhawk • 03/28/23 03:28 PM ET
How else would you "fix" a game but through the officials? The players?
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 09:36 PM ET
jonny, I don't know if you have ever seen this particular website...
No_Limit_Hokie • 03/28/23 06:56 PM ET
Very Interesting! and logical and believable. Is the stock market "fair"?
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 09:30 PM ET
🤔**
No_Limit_Hokie • 03/28/23 09:35 PM ET
LOL!**
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 09:37 PM ET
😊**
No_Limit_Hokie • 03/28/23 10:21 PM ET
As a general rule the girls game at all levels is called worse than the
GreenvilleVT • 03/28/23 06:29 PM ET
Watch this.**
Maroon Effect • 03/28/23 06:04 PM ET
Or watch “Flagrant Foul: Tim Donaghy story”
hokiepro • 03/28/23 06:47 PM ET
I read his biography. That was my exact thought **
Maroon Effect • 03/28/23 10:41 PM ET
I will fill that blank in for you Jonny......YES! Only needed to watch the
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 04:10 PM ET
You must be fun to watch games with. **
GreenvilleVT • 03/28/23 06:17 PM ET
I am! Thanks for the kudos! Don't understand why this topic is even
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 09:10 PM ET
Because this is tinfoil hat BS. SEC has won just 5 titles in 25 years
jhs93 • 03/28/23 03:41 PM ET
Google ex NBA official Tim Donaghy and take the tin foil off so you can see**
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 04:57 PM ET
So 1 ref in 1000 who is a criminal means that your conspiracy theories are
King of Hokies • 03/28/23 06:04 PM ET
Just as I suspected... you just confirmed my conspiracy theory***
sacramento hokie • 03/29/23 02:32 PM ET
Well that's one that we know about! You think he's the only one ever? He's
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 07:51 PM ET
So "apologist" is the tin hat word for realist. That's cute. Thanks. **
King of Hokies • 03/29/23 07:04 AM ET
If the shoe fits......and it does with you...wear it.**
Italian Stallion • 03/29/23 09:14 PM ET
Donaghy was a lone wolf......
2hhoop3 • 03/28/23 05:05 PM ET
You can believe that if you must.**
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 09:11 PM ET
You appear to.....
2hhoop3 • 03/28/23 09:38 PM ET
I am not saying that I know for a fact that it is going on, and I do not
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 10:22 PM ET
You're wrong out.....
2hhoop3 • 03/28/23 11:25 PM ET
Well your contention is also not based on anything but your opinion. How
Italian Stallion • 03/29/23 01:19 AM ET
What you
2hhoop3 • 03/29/23 01:35 AM ET
That is, as I expected, a laughable response. You have nothing and I repeat
Italian Stallion • 03/29/23 09:56 PM ET
Never said.....
2hhoop3 • 03/29/23 10:09 PM ET
LOL! YOU said grand fix I didn't. Let me respond with some sense to your
Italian Stallion • 03/30/23 12:18 AM ET
I thought you....
2hhoop3 • 03/30/23 10:31 AM ET
Ok 2hhoop3, let's put this discussion to bed. Let's just agree to disagree.
Italian Stallion • 03/30/23 03:42 PM ET
As long as big money is involved with Sports (there will be efforts to....
jonnyhawk • 03/28/23 03:52 PM ET
If "big money" was not involved, we would be scouring old time
VTCALS72 • 03/29/23 12:46 PM ET
To a point, and then past that point, Big money Stifles things like.....
jonnyhawk • 03/29/23 04:25 PM ET
Why didn't anything the climateers say was going to happen over the last 50
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 09:15 PM ET
smh**
King of Hokies • 03/28/23 06:05 PM ET
Doesn't FAU San Diego St UConn and Miami in Final 4 go against this idea?
MaryWashGrad • 03/28/23 04:05 PM ET
Good Question Mary, you see, what we are witnessing is what I call "shift"
jonnyhawk • 03/28/23 04:19 PM ET
All your posts lack any actual evidence, it's all gut feeling based hearsay
jhs93 • 03/28/23 04:27 PM ET
Pot / Kettle**
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 09:16 PM ET
It's the ugly underside of sports that nobody wants to tackle or admit,
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 04:37 PM ET
Refs messing up a game isnt evidence it's rigged, there were bad calls in
jhs93 • 03/28/23 04:39 PM ET
What evidence could anyone give you if you are not going to accept bogus
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 09:21 PM ET
Evidence I want? Mathematical analysis ◄
jhs93 • 03/28/23 09:28 PM ET
But would you agree that the best way to achieve a "fix" is through or by
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 09:51 PM ET
I suppose you are denying that ESPN and SEC are working together to right?
jonnyhawk • 03/28/23 04:32 PM ET
Has nothing to do with anything I'm saying, you're arguing with a strawman**
jhs93 • 03/28/23 04:40 PM ET
You were just talking about the success of the SEC like it was random.
jonnyhawk • 03/28/23 04:41 PM ET
Wow, conference with big names makes money and spends more money, shocker
jhs93 • 03/28/23 04:49 PM ET
Would it make sense that if your highest viewership was when Alabama was
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 09:27 PM ET
EsecPN
jonnyhawk • 03/28/23 05:04 PM ET
And ESPN gets what ESPN wants**
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 04:38 PM ET
Has nothing to do with crappy officiating. Do you expect the same
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 04:14 PM ET
I don't think they are bad at their job .....
hokietony • 03/28/23 04:28 PM ET
Nonsequitur. Refs bad or not is not same assertion as refs rig the game**
jhs93 • 03/28/23 04:27 PM ET
Not the same thing.**
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 04:33 PM ET
I'm responding to Hawk's claim not about bad officiating.
MaryWashGrad • 03/28/23 04:19 PM ET
I got you. So then, do you believe it is crappy officiating and not
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 04:33 PM ET
I will take a shot .....
hokietony • 03/28/23 04:40 PM ET
So, you are telling me that you think that the women's basketball officials
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 04:50 PM ET
Exhibit 1- The continued mugging of Liz Kitley, bad refs or
79EEHOKIE • 03/28/23 06:03 PM ET
I'm telling you it is nearly impossible for an entire industry of workers..
hokietony • 03/28/23 04:54 PM ET
In my eyes the officials have generally not been very good ...
MaryWashGrad • 03/28/23 04:38 PM ET
I understand some of the complaints but I’m not buying into any conspiracy
Hoakie82 • 03/28/23 07:27 PM ET
I do not believe in any conspiracy theory. That's plain silly.
MaryWashGrad • 03/28/23 07:34 PM ET
Agreed**
Italian Stallion • 03/28/23 04:51 PM ET