The Hooker comparison is a good one and just leaves us wishing we could
have provided the environment that released the obvious potential in these players. Forgive the diatribe and people already know a lot of what I am about to say. A coaches job is to get the best out of each player. That means you can't necessarily treat everyone the same. Hopefully, in the recruiting process you assess that fit. But it's not perfect. Players may have different styles than coaches anticipated and maybe the coaches turned out to have a different style than the player anticipated. If that happens somebody has to move/adapt. Or both of them need to.
That has to be balanced against the overall environment coaches want to create. Meaning you can't treat one player completely differently than you do all the other players. Or you risk losing unity. Or if you do, you have to be able to communicate the reason for that with the rest of the team. All that stuff requires communication.
Valeri Cagle, Clemson, was a Jordy Bahl type player. Their star pitcher and best, very strong, hitter. I was told that she did not ride on the bus with the rest of team. She preferred individual transportation. So, they accommodated that. They could have laid down the law and said she had to ride the bus and be part of the team. But, obviously they couldn't allow the entire team to do that. If someone else asked to do that, coaches would have to explain why Cagle could and why other players couldn't. It was clear that Cagle was getting "special treatment". But, she was also critical to the success of the team. Team players who only care about team success would probably have an easier time accepting it.
Not saying that's the LG situation. But, maybe she had a unique personality or style that required a different coaching approach than the staff takes with all other players or that fits their preferred coaching style or principles. If they knew she was unhappy, and they should have, they would have to decide if they wanted to try and accommodate that unique need to get the best performance from LG. In fairness to the coaching staff, I doubt they knew that LG had this level of potential. (And that's another issue). Sophie adequately replaced what we got from LG in her sophomore year. To us, it didn't look like a significant loss.
But, I would hope, that this coaching staff would be introspective and humble enough to at least determine if they need to learn something from this situation rather than just dismiss it as "if she doesn't want to be here, then we don't want her here". Because with the level of talent they recruit, they will run into this situation again.
Thread Replies (75)
OK softballers who do hope wins the WCWS and why?
-- MidloHokie
May 26, 2025 at 03:07 PM ET
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05/26/25 03:07 PM ET
none, I hate all 8 teams, hope they all lose, season ended already
-- Scream_On_D
May 28, 2025 at 02:02 AM ET
Scream_On_D
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05/28/25 02:02 AM ET
My sentiments exactly but don't forget fall ball! See you at TSP? :-)**
-- laphroaig
May 28, 2025 at 04:57 AM ET
laphroaig
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05/28/25 04:57 AM ET
Has nothing to do with conferences. But Texas Tech, they are the underdogs.
-- carhokies
May 27, 2025 at 05:02 PM ET
carhokies
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05/27/25 05:02 PM ET
So who are you rooting for?**
-- FriendofCoal
May 27, 2025 at 12:38 PM ET
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05/27/25 12:38 PM ET
Can you just watch and not root for anyone?**
-- FriendofCoal
May 27, 2025 at 12:45 PM ET
FriendofCoal
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05/27/25 12:45 PM ET
The old umpire and football ref in me can certainly do that. Easily! :-)**
-- laphroaig
May 28, 2025 at 04:59 AM ET
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05/28/25 04:59 AM ET
Usually whoever I root for loses… 🙄**
-- Virginiawinc
May 28, 2025 at 12:45 AM ET
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05/28/25 12:45 AM ET
Hope you are rooting for TN.**
-- FriendofCoal
May 28, 2025 at 11:18 AM ET
FriendofCoal
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05/28/25 11:18 AM ET
Unfortunately I was! 😞**
-- Virginiawinc
May 29, 2025 at 10:43 PM ET
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05/29/25 10:43 PM ET
You absolutely can, it's probably better that way ....
-- hokietony
May 27, 2025 at 01:10 PM ET
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05/27/25 01:10 PM ET
I’m going for “anybody but OU”
-- hokiepro
May 27, 2025 at 05:46 PM ET
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05/27/25 05:46 PM ET
Oh for sure. I'm 'mildly' hoping TT goes a long way because I like . .
-- MidloHokie
May 27, 2025 at 02:42 PM ET
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05/27/25 02:42 PM ET
The more I think about this, the more I think I am pulling for TT....
-- hokietony
May 27, 2025 at 02:51 PM ET
hokietony
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05/27/25 02:51 PM ET
Texas Tech for me - No SEC or B10 would be awesome IMHO.**
-- U2Hokie
May 27, 2025 at 12:00 PM ET
U2Hokie
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05/27/25 12:00 PM ET
Only hope for VT to win the WCWS and when it can't happen,
-- laphroaig
May 27, 2025 at 05:05 AM ET
laphroaig
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05/27/25 05:05 AM ET
Any school that's not OU, SEC, and B10.**
-- Atlee Hokie
May 26, 2025 at 10:36 PM ET
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05/26/25 10:36 PM ET
I think most know where I’m leaning towards
-- VTsportscaster
May 26, 2025 at 09:29 PM ET
VTsportscaster
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05/26/25 09:29 PM ET
Correct answer.**
-- vatechcowpatty
May 26, 2025 at 09:09 PM ET
vatechcowpatty
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05/26/25 09:09 PM ET
The correct answer is VT. Now asking me who I THINK will win is an
-- laphroaig
May 27, 2025 at 05:12 AM ET
laphroaig
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05/27/25 05:12 AM ET
Not the SEC but statistically it will be the SEC **
-- SuperFeHokie
May 26, 2025 at 06:22 PM ET
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05/26/25 06:22 PM ET
Oregon, for LG and her family.**
-- nkhooch
May 26, 2025 at 05:43 PM ET
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05/26/25 05:43 PM ET
We've already had that multiple times. And since they've made it to the
-- nkhooch
May 26, 2025 at 09:52 PM ET
nkhooch
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05/26/25 09:52 PM ET
Maybe that’s an important narrative
-- Hokie4Life_89
May 26, 2025 at 09:07 PM ET
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05/26/25 09:07 PM ET
The problem is we have no idea why she was unhappy or why she "bailed".
-- AbsolutVT03
May 28, 2025 at 02:03 PM ET
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05/28/25 02:03 PM ET
What are you talking about? She definitely left for more PT. No one knows
-- King of Hokies
May 27, 2025 at 08:48 AM ET
King of Hokies
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05/27/25 08:48 AM ET
So what were the reasons? If not
-- hokiepro
May 26, 2025 at 09:51 PM ET
hokiepro
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05/26/25 09:51 PM ET
Random - you mean they flipped a coin? Or used dice?
-- nkhooch
May 27, 2025 at 04:49 PM ET
nkhooch
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05/27/25 04:49 PM ET
Thanks for the response. I can't tell what part of this is you
-- nkhooch
May 30, 2025 at 03:11 AM ET
nkhooch
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05/30/25 03:11 AM ET
Yes, not condemning her but sounds like she thought she should be #2 but
-- Hokie-2x
May 27, 2025 at 07:48 AM ET
Hokie-2x
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05/27/25 07:48 AM ET
The Hooker comparison is a good one and just leaves us wishing we could
◄
-- nkhooch
May 27, 2025 at 05:37 PM ET
nkhooch
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05/27/25 05:37 PM ET
LG would be here if she wanted to be here. Period. **
-- laphroaig
May 26, 2025 at 08:47 PM ET
laphroaig
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05/26/25 08:47 PM ET
There is no one to root for.**
-- dallasvt
May 26, 2025 at 05:18 PM ET
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05/26/25 05:18 PM ET
Ole Miss just to be different.**
-- Hokiedanville
May 26, 2025 at 05:06 PM ET
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05/26/25 05:06 PM ET
TT for me. I don't want SEC to win and don't like UCLA either.
-- NC_Hokies
May 26, 2025 at 04:48 PM ET
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05/26/25 04:48 PM ET
TT winning would be BAD for the sport
-- Hokie4Life_89
May 26, 2025 at 08:54 PM ET
Hokie4Life_89
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05/26/25 08:54 PM ET
That's an already known truth. Been so for years.
-- Atlee Hokie
May 26, 2025 at 10:33 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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05/26/25 10:33 PM ET
Except in the case of the Dallas Cowboys. They can't be bought enough.**
-- Hokie-2x
May 27, 2025 at 07:55 AM ET
Hokie-2x
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05/27/25 07:55 AM ET
Yes, even pre-NIL (which truly means Now It's Legal)**
-- laphroaig
May 27, 2025 at 04:44 AM ET
laphroaig
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05/27/25 04:44 AM ET
Did you think of that on your on?**
-- Hokie-2x
May 27, 2025 at 10:18 AM ET
Hokie-2x
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05/27/25 10:18 AM ET
Hmmm, maybe you're own to something.**
-- BG Hokie
May 27, 2025 at 10:57 AM ET
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05/27/25 10:57 AM ET
I think we've misjudged laphroaig. He might be one of those deep thinking
-- Hokie-2x
May 27, 2025 at 11:13 AM ET
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05/27/25 11:13 AM ET
Your going to have to on the fact that you weren't own to what I was doing.**
-- BG Hokie
May 27, 2025 at 11:25 AM ET
BG Hokie
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05/27/25 11:25 AM ET
Isn’t it already proof a natty can be bought by what OU has been doing?
-- hokiepro
May 26, 2025 at 09:53 PM ET
hokiepro
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05/26/25 09:53 PM ET
Well TT winning can't be bad for the players, right? Many are earning . .
-- MidloHokie
May 26, 2025 at 09:51 PM ET
MidloHokie
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05/26/25 09:51 PM ET
Love's has been buying them for OU for a while now. The best players will
-- NC_Hokies
May 26, 2025 at 08:57 PM ET
NC_Hokies
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05/26/25 08:57 PM ET
Unfortunate for who? I'm thinking the girls who work hard to hone . .
-- MidloHokie
May 26, 2025 at 10:04 PM ET
MidloHokie
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05/26/25 10:04 PM ET
I agree the athletes should be paid for their abilities, I just wish
-- NC_Hokies
May 26, 2025 at 10:34 PM ET
NC_Hokies
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05/26/25 10:34 PM ET
College sports have been regulated for decades. Even when the regulation
-- laphroaig
May 27, 2025 at 04:52 AM ET
laphroaig
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05/27/25 04:52 AM ET
Right, that is the unfortunate part I was talking about in earlier post.**
-- NC_Hokies
May 27, 2025 at 07:07 AM ET
NC_Hokies
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05/27/25 07:07 AM ET
If TT wins the natty, did the coach win it or did the NIL people win it?**
-- laphroaig
May 26, 2025 at 08:48 PM ET
laphroaig
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05/26/25 08:48 PM ET
It takes both. TT is not the only team in OKC with lots of NIL $$.
-- MidloHokie
May 27, 2025 at 02:45 PM ET
MidloHokie
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05/27/25 02:45 PM ET
Can’t plug and play bad coaches and top players and win a natty
-- Brewing_Hokie
May 26, 2025 at 09:50 PM ET
Brewing_Hokie
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05/26/25 09:50 PM ET
In this case, what %? I'd guess 40/60.**
-- TomTurkey
May 27, 2025 at 10:50 AM ET
TomTurkey
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05/27/25 10:50 AM ET
Probably. But depends on the team for exact % imo**
-- Brewing_Hokie
May 27, 2025 at 11:11 AM ET
Brewing_Hokie
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05/27/25 11:11 AM ET
I was considering Canady particularly, maybe 35/65 **
-- TomTurkey
May 27, 2025 at 11:24 AM ET
TomTurkey
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05/27/25 11:24 AM ET
I guess you could have that same question about any of the top teams.**
-- NC_Hokies
May 26, 2025 at 08:54 PM ET
NC_Hokies
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05/26/25 08:54 PM ET
Would figure an "anybody but" list would be pretty darn long. :-)**
-- laphroaig
May 26, 2025 at 04:09 PM ET
laphroaig
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05/26/25 04:09 PM ET
Texas Tech only by default I guess ....
-- hokietony
May 26, 2025 at 03:19 PM ET
hokietony
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05/26/25 03:19 PM ET
I guess I’m wondereing
-- Hokie4Life_89
May 27, 2025 at 07:40 AM ET
Hokie4Life_89
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05/27/25 07:40 AM ET
I guess it's just rooting against the big dominant bully. At least TT is
-- NC_Hokies
May 27, 2025 at 08:30 AM ET
NC_Hokies
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05/27/25 08:30 AM ET
I put OU last. Tired of them getting to play the entire postseason at home **
-- hokiepro
May 26, 2025 at 06:40 PM ET
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05/26/25 06:40 PM ET
Texas Tech "would" be my pick except they are...
-- Old Line Hokie
May 26, 2025 at 04:42 PM ET
Old Line Hokie
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05/26/25 04:42 PM ET
Well. I’m still with The Red Raiders **
-- hokiepro
May 26, 2025 at 06:38 PM ET
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05/26/25 06:38 PM ET
I agree. But the best case scenario is for the event to get
-- RJHokie
May 26, 2025 at 03:40 PM ET
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05/26/25 03:40 PM ET
Texas Tech b/c they're not SEC
-- atticus555
May 26, 2025 at 03:17 PM ET
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05/26/25 03:17 PM ET