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Will Stewart
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It's whatever they need it to be.

They want to retire Liz Kitley's jersey ... classify something she's done as a "national award." (I'm not Liz-bashing, by the way -- she absolutely deserves to have her jersey retired.) They don't want to retire the jersey of (insert athlete's name here) ... whatever he or she has done is not a "national award." Ya'll are overthinking this. The real reason that a "national award" was added to the criteria -- in my opinion -- came about because Ace Custis's jersey was retired in March of 1997, as a nod and a thank-you to Bill Foster. Odd decision. We all love Ace, but he's not jersey-retirement material. He leads in the VT record book for exactly one statistics: Consecutive games played (123). That led to a lot of "what about"-ism concerning more accomplished players from the past, with the lead example being Allan Bristow. Bristow is #1 in career scoring average (23.1 ppg) -- a VERY impressive statistic -- and consecutive double-figure games (78). To quiet the mob, Bristow's jersey was retired in 1998, 25 years after his playing career ended. The Ace Custis thing really created a problem, because there are MANY more accomplished athletes across many sports whose jerseys never got retired. So in 2002, to add at least a little structure to it, they put in the criteria of a "national award," and that provides a convenient way to rule out future Ace Custises and not make that mistake again.
Posted: 05/22/2026 at 10:39 AM ET
(In response to this post by GusDaMan)

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Is Tincher the only softball player to have number retired? If so, I would
HOKIE SEAN 05/21/26 09:47 PM ET
Retiring a number......
2hhoop3 05/22/26 11:16 AM ET
Difficult to keep emotion out of the process of "retiring a number".
laphroaig 05/22/26 12:09 PM ET
Pretty erudite thought there, laphroaig.**
saret 05/22/26 12:11 PM ET
Gotta look up "erudite". I'll get back to you! :-)**
laphroaig 05/22/26 12:12 PM ET
I think its a typo. Meant air tight!**
HokieAvalanche 05/22/26 01:12 PM ET
Pretty cogent response **
TomTurkey 05/22/26 12:24 PM ET
Thanks! Now got another one to look up! :-)**
laphroaig 05/22/26 04:20 PM ET
Touche'**
saret 05/22/26 12:38 PM ET
Now French! Geez guys, give me a break! :-)**
laphroaig 05/22/26 04:30 PM ET
As of 2002, you have to win a major national award ....
Will StewartAdmin 05/22/26 05:18 AM ET
That's a wise, unemotional, business-like decision.**
laphroaig 05/22/26 12:11 PM ET
Jimmy Williams deserves it!!!**
VTDC 05/22/26 11:34 AM ET
I thought ACC POY and All-American qualified ??
hokiepro 05/22/26 09:44 AM ET
ACC POY isn't national. All-American isn't an "award."
Will StewartAdmin 05/22/26 10:03 AM ET
They ignored/bended the rules for Liz.**
TheFacts 05/22/26 12:08 PM ET
Overtly bended as they should have**
TomTurkey 05/22/26 12:26 PM ET
100%**
TheFacts 05/22/26 01:08 PM ET
so what is a "national award" IYO, if not being named all-american? I
GusDaMan 05/22/26 10:06 AM ET
It's whatever they need it to be.
Will StewartAdmin 05/22/26 10:39 AM ET
Chris Smith deserves his jersey or number retired.**
HokieJack 05/22/26 12:46 PM ET
I think first team All American is a national award
hokiepro 05/22/26 10:49 AM ET
I agree (with one caveat)
Hokie4Life_89 05/22/26 11:47 AM ET
I would agree along with all of her other awards
VTChip 05/22/26 11:06 AM ET
Tincher named USA Softball National Player of the Year (link)**
Chesapeake_Hokie 05/22/26 08:00 AM ET
I'm against retiring numbers, but fully support retiring jerseys.**
EDGEMAN 05/22/26 07:07 AM ET
Was an exception made for Tincher and the actual number retired, ...
Atlee Hokie 05/22/26 05:45 AM ET
Number is retired **
hokiepro 05/22/26 11:10 AM ET
not a believer in retired # unless on the school's Rushmore. All 3 were
VermontHokie 05/21/26 09:52 PM ET