You are kind of all over the place. We are discussing elite pitchers.
I am not criticizing our pitching staff or our team. Not sure why the plea there. We are talking about elite pitchers, not staffs.
We have not had an elite pitcher since KR. "Elite" is not just ERA. It's carrying a team. Pitching a high majority of innings and winning a very high % of games. Often means starting Friday and Sunday and relieving to protect other wins. Keely did that with a much lower ERA than Lemley.
Here are EL and KR ACC stats from their senior years.
EL, 67.2 innings, 6 - 4, 4.54 ERA
KR, 96.1 innings, 15 - 0, 1.67 ERA
See the difference? We rode KR to two Super regionals. She started 4 of the 6 games. Haven't made it to Supers since. Lemley was never an All-American or got close to the national accolades KR got. EL had a great career. AUSL selection had other elements to it. Softball has not changed that much since 2022.
Bree Carrico's stats are elite. Her load is not. She has pitched 88 innings and is 12-1. She is not carrying the team, yet. Maybe she will at some point. I assume if Pete thought she could start Fri and Sun and maintain those stats, she would be doing it. And Mazz would be a great 2nd game starter. Keely was not the primary pitcher her freshman year either.
In 2024, Canady pitched 240 innings, was 34 - 7 and had a 1.11 ERA. Do you think TT makes it to the CWS without her?
This year she is 18-3 with a 115 innings. She is pitching less innings because they have a 2nd elite pitcher who is 18-1 with a 1.34 ERA. They have two Canadys. And they are 42-4.
Do you think if we had Canady that we would have 9 losses?
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I disagree. The last 2 games they have lost the defense has played
-- Hokie_Forester
Apr 23, 2026 at 06:56 AM ET
Hokie_Forester
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04/23/26 06:56 AM ET
Answer this: How many of our losses have been to teams with more . . .
-- MidloHokie
Apr 23, 2026 at 06:31 AM ET
MidloHokie
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04/23/26 06:31 AM ET
We'll have our answer about just how good we are after the UNC games. **
-- HokieAvalanche
Apr 23, 2026 at 12:02 AM ET
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04/23/26 12:02 AM ET
UNC is not very good. In fact their pitching borders on bad. Anything . .
-- MidloHokie
Apr 23, 2026 at 06:37 AM ET
MidloHokie
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04/23/26 06:37 AM ET
We’re more talented than 38-9? That’s pretty talented **
-- hokiepro
Apr 24, 2026 at 10:02 AM ET
hokiepro
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04/24/26 10:02 AM ET
GT is not very good. Liberty is just plain bad. Of course now that they
-- vatechcowpatty
Apr 23, 2026 at 07:24 AM ET
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04/23/26 07:24 AM ET
I wouldn't call Liberty 'bad'. They are 15-6 in CUSA. They have . .
-- MidloHokie
Apr 23, 2026 at 07:30 AM ET
MidloHokie
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04/23/26 07:30 AM ET
They had a losing record. GT barely had a winning record and a losing ACC
-- vatechcowpatty
Apr 23, 2026 at 07:47 AM ET
vatechcowpatty
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04/23/26 07:47 AM ET
I'm not excusing the loss to Liberty but they aren't a 'bad' team.
-- MidloHokie
Apr 23, 2026 at 05:58 PM ET
MidloHokie
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04/23/26 05:58 PM ET
I'm very supportive of our Team. But the way they have played lately
-- HokieAvalanche
Apr 23, 2026 at 10:35 AM ET
HokieAvalanche
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04/23/26 10:35 AM ET
I believe most posters on this board are very supportive of the women in
-- pharlap_99
Apr 22, 2026 at 11:53 PM ET
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04/22/26 11:53 PM ET
Football will be the hand that feeds after it takes...we can be top ten in
-- U2Hokie
Apr 23, 2026 at 05:49 AM ET
U2Hokie
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04/23/26 05:49 AM ET
I agree there is no shame in being a #2 seed in the NCAA. And we do it
-- nkhooch
Apr 22, 2026 at 11:37 PM ET
nkhooch
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04/22/26 11:37 PM ET
Lemley was an elite pitcher; otherwise she’d not have received an AUSL GOLD
-- hokiepro
Apr 23, 2026 at 12:06 AM ET
hokiepro
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04/23/26 12:06 AM ET
Nope. Lemley was very good but not what I term 'elite'. VT has only . . .
-- MidloHokie
Apr 23, 2026 at 06:27 AM ET
MidloHokie
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04/23/26 06:27 AM ET
AT was generational beyond elite**
-- TomTurkey
Apr 23, 2026 at 10:17 AM ET
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04/23/26 10:17 AM ET
I'd argue that Keely was not yet elite when she came in as a freshman
-- RVAHokie05
Apr 23, 2026 at 09:52 AM ET
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04/23/26 09:52 AM ET
Agree. Her work and the result of it is pretty rare. It would . . .
-- MidloHokie
Apr 23, 2026 at 05:56 PM ET
MidloHokie
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04/23/26 05:56 PM ET
Yeah I remember you saying a pitcher is usually 80% “formed”
-- RVAHokie05
Apr 23, 2026 at 07:12 PM ET
RVAHokie05
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04/23/26 07:12 PM ET
I think elite is defined by the times
-- hokiepro
Apr 23, 2026 at 06:47 AM ET
hokiepro
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04/23/26 06:47 AM ET
Agree, the pitcher's job is getting tougher. **
-- MidloHokie
Apr 23, 2026 at 07:24 AM ET
MidloHokie
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04/23/26 07:24 AM ET
You are kind of all over the place. We are discussing elite pitchers.
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-- nkhooch
Apr 23, 2026 at 04:47 AM ET
nkhooch
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04/23/26 04:47 AM ET
I don't think either Bree or Mazz are "elite". Bree may have the higher
-- HokieAvalanche
Apr 23, 2026 at 02:38 PM ET
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04/23/26 02:38 PM ET
I agree with this. A week ago I thought Mazz 26 and Bree 26 were better
-- vatechcowpatty
Apr 23, 2026 at 08:15 AM ET
vatechcowpatty
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04/23/26 08:15 AM ET
Good points. This is her first year. So, maybe they are being careful
-- nkhooch
Apr 23, 2026 at 12:50 PM ET
nkhooch
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04/23/26 12:50 PM ET
The missing ingredient with our current team!**
-- HokieAvalanche
Apr 23, 2026 at 12:05 AM ET
HokieAvalanche
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04/23/26 12:05 AM ET
If we want to be specific. Michelle Chatfield's power numbers are below
-- VAHokie89
Apr 23, 2026 at 08:54 PM ET
VAHokie89
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04/23/26 08:54 PM ET
It wasn’t missing until this week. We had the lowest team ERA in ACC
-- hokiepro
Apr 23, 2026 at 12:08 AM ET
hokiepro
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04/23/26 12:08 AM ET
Our schedule strength was not much different than TTech’s
-- hokiepro
Apr 23, 2026 at 08:01 AM ET
hokiepro
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04/23/26 08:01 AM ET
You really can't put Bree and Canady in the same sentence. You put way . .
-- MidloHokie
Apr 23, 2026 at 06:19 PM ET
MidloHokie
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04/23/26 06:19 PM ET
What metric would you use to better compare pitchers? WHIP? Maybe…
-- hokiepro
Apr 24, 2026 at 11:54 AM ET
hokiepro
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04/24/26 11:54 AM ET
Well Canady's career ERA is 0.94 after pitching . . .
-- MidloHokie
Apr 24, 2026 at 12:50 PM ET
MidloHokie
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04/24/26 12:50 PM ET