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Stech OP
Dec 21, 2025 at 05:21 PM ET
@TerryD heard if CFP goes to 16, ND automatic PO spot eliminated
This was talked about when ND missed the playoff. However, I also heard today that wasn't the case. Can you please clarify the situation if we go to the 16 CFP in 2026? Will they still get a automatic bid if they are ranked at a certain spot? TIA

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TerryD
7mo
I've heard the same. Will it matter at 16?
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Stech OP
7mo
I wouldn’t think it would matter at 16, 11 at large to be gotten.
Just checking, because I had someone tell me that ND would still have it at 16, and that seemed wrong, ** Edited by Stech at 12/22/2025, 12:42:01 PM
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RandomAsianGuy
7mo
A 16 team playoff is big enough. ND won’t need any guarantee.
Maroon Baboon Maroon Baboon
7mo
Wait until they are ranked 17th 🤯
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Stech OP
7mo
I agree, but are they demanding it!?!?
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
According to Dan Patrick's source, the Big Ten and SEC now "run" the FBS
Playoffs. The source said if the other conferences and Notre Dame didn't agree to this proposal, then the Big Ten and SEC were leaving to form their own playoffs. The format supposedly is as follows: 4 P4 champions receive automatic bids Highest ranked G champion receive an automatic bid Notre Dame receives an automatic bid if it is ranked in the Top 12 Remaining 6 or 7 at-large bids (depending on Notre Dame) will go to the highest ranked teams
3TechFanz 3TechFanz
7mo
Said that years ago. Fox owns BIG10 and ESPN the $EC.
The other conferences are crumbs. They influence the rankings, what's on the air, etc and it is all slanted to their power 2 that they each have half of.
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Stech OP
7mo
Agree, but heard if we go to 16 in the playoff, the ND rules is gone, but
if 12 or 14, the ND rule stays in.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
Makes sense, but I do wonder if more bids would need to go to the Gs at
that point. At least with 16 or more you start to open the door to potential questions on whether all 10 FBS conferences should receive 1 automatic bid for their champions to the Playoffs.
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Truthahn
7mo
I'd like to see them go to 16 games but have two levels of byes.
They players are professionals now. They can handle it. Bottom 8 teams, play 4 games to get to 12 teams. Bring in 4 bye teams, then play 4 more games to get to 8 teams. Then bring in 4 more byes, play 4 games, then 2, then 1. Even if you have two "undeserving" teams again, they would be gone before the top 12 play. Actually, I would like them to allow 6 auto bids, if they did this. If teams #15 and #16 really are bad, they drop right out.
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
It would be interesting to see if those extra byes would help or hurt teams
AnotherTechW AnotherTechW
7mo
No byes! Playing Tulane or JmU was like having a bye
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
Unless you play JMU the week after playing Boise State at FedEx Field.
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Stech OP
7mo
I would like it, but after Tulane and JMU getting manhandled, I doubt it. I
said it years ago, I think a G playoff is coming. Get rid of the postseason bowls, let everyone play the last week in August and hopefully they are OOC Rivalry games, neutral sites for the P4 maybe, and on campus game for the G's. Then you have a P and G playoffs, I will probably get divorced watching all of the games, but as I tell my wife, you can come watch them with me. She chooses instead to watch Downton Abbey or some similar series. :-)
VTHokie2000 VTHokie2000
7mo
I don't think the separate but equal will fly though for a number of
reasons. First, a G Playoff has essentially created a "second class" within DI-FBS that won't be that much different than what we currently see between DI-FBS and DI-FCS. How often do people refer to DI-FCS as "DII?" Once the G Playoff is in place, then I don't think it would take people very long to make the same mistake with the Gs. Do you know the reason the NCAA Committee decided to rename DI-A and DI-AA to DI-FBS and DI-FCS? The same problem that influenced the NCAA Committee to rename the DI subdivisions will be manifested by the existence of 2 FBS tournaments. At some point, people will start to ask "Why are the Gs even in DI-FBS if they can't compete for THE FBS National Championship?" Basically people will never see the G Playoffs as anything more than the NIT or CollegeInsider.com Postseason Tournament (CIT) which teams from the mid-major conferences are the only ones eligible to compete in. DI-FCS schools are allowed to compete against DI-FBS schools now, but they don't have to be in the same subdivision to do it. Why can't the same thing happen to the G conferences? Some people may even take it one step further and suggest the G conferences should be "forced" to combine with DI-FCS which would still solve the "problem." The problem with how people view the "problem" (aka ways to get the Gs out of the FBS Playoffs) is it will only be a matter of time before the "new problem" becomes ways to get rid of the ACC, Big XII, and maybe Pac-12 of the FBS Playoffs so it is just the P2s participating in it. Second, how likely will someone want to sponsor the G FBS Playoff? It is a valid question to ask because there is a very good chance G FBS Playoff games will go head-to-head with P FBS Playoff games and even NFL regular season games. How do the ratings for the NCAA DI Playoffs compare to the FBS Playoff games? The Montana-Montana State semi-final game was on ABC and went head-to-head with at least 1 of the FBS Playoff games on Saturday, but it may have overlapped 2 games. The Illinois State-Villanova semi-final game may have overlapped 2 games too because it competed against the tail end of the late afternoon game. If not, then it pretty much went head-to-head against the Oregon-JMU game. If the ratings aren't there, then the sponsors may not be there and most definitely the money won't be there. At least to the level they are currently making now as a co-owner. If the Gs can't make just as much or more money than they currently are now, then why would they agree to the change?