I think the B12 will want to add the PAC4, if we walk away.
Three new west coast states, including CA, close to several of their schools, too. The B12 doesn't mind being 20 schools. And at this point, they don't mind losing another school or two in seven years. Heck that is why you go to 20.
In the meanwhile, why tell everyone you want the PAC4, and have the ACC best you? BY has been saying he doesn't want them for a while, but I think that is all just posturing because he knows it makes more sense for Stanford and Cal to go to the ACC (ND connection, ACCN, academics, etc.). He needs to wait that out.
SMU is a different situation. The B12 has too many TX teams anyway, including one in DFW. SMU is also a better fit for the ACC. We want TX in the ACCN, academics, Dallas market, not really very far away, SMU has been separate from the B12 schools for quite a while now already, etc. They make sense for the ACC, even without Stanford and Cal, IMO.
Thread Replies (22)
Brett McMurphy reporting that Big12 engaging PAC-4 is a hoax
-- HOO86
Aug 27, 2023 at 10:20 AM ET
HOO86
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08/27/23 10:20 AM ET
I lean toward made up or put out there to put pressure on ACC
-- Hokie12thman
Aug 27, 2023 at 02:40 PM ET
Hokie12thman
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08/27/23 02:40 PM ET
I think the B12 will want to add the PAC4, if we walk away.
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-- Truthahn
Aug 27, 2023 at 01:56 PM ET
Truthahn
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08/27/23 01:56 PM ET
Dennis Dodd reported that same, some Cal people are feeding their beat guy**
-- BROman Hokie
Aug 27, 2023 at 12:48 PM ET
BROman Hokie
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08/27/23 12:48 PM ET
Hmmm, Cal and Stanford are in negotiations concerning money,
-- Big12 guy
Aug 27, 2023 at 12:04 PM ET
Big12 guy
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08/27/23 12:04 PM ET
Not surprising. No conference wants Calford or SMU.
-- WBGV
Aug 27, 2023 at 11:32 AM ET
WBGV
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08/27/23 11:32 AM ET
I don’t think the Big 12 has any interest in Stanford or Cal
-- Millpoint
Aug 27, 2023 at 10:52 AM ET
Millpoint
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08/27/23 10:52 AM ET
Its the other way around for Cal and Stanford.**
-- VaTechHokiesACC
Aug 27, 2023 at 08:10 PM ET
VaTechHokiesACC
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08/27/23 08:10 PM ET
Why wouldn’t the Big 12 want a California presence?
-- corvt2000
Aug 27, 2023 at 12:45 PM ET
corvt2000
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08/27/23 12:45 PM ET
I don’t think their politics line up well with most Big 12 states
-- Millpoint
Aug 27, 2023 at 04:50 PM ET
Millpoint
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08/27/23 04:50 PM ET
No more pro rata $, the B12 would be cutting the pie 2 more ways**
-- BROman Hokie
Aug 27, 2023 at 02:56 PM ET
BROman Hokie
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08/27/23 02:56 PM ET
moreso vice versa. Cal and Stanford made it clear early on. No interest.**
-- neworleanshoo
Aug 27, 2023 at 03:21 PM ET
neworleanshoo
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08/27/23 03:21 PM ET
Given that Stanford won the Director's Cup 26 times
-- HOO86
Aug 27, 2023 at 12:16 PM ET
HOO86
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08/27/23 12:16 PM ET
Big 12 will never invite SMU**
-- Millpoint
Aug 27, 2023 at 11:51 AM ET
Millpoint
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08/27/23 11:51 AM ET
To me SMU and TCU are about the same.
-- HOO86
Aug 27, 2023 at 12:45 PM ET
HOO86
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08/27/23 12:45 PM ET
Death penalty was a long time ago
-- Millpoint
Aug 27, 2023 at 04:47 PM ET
Millpoint
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08/27/23 04:47 PM ET
If you have Baylor, TT, TCU and Houston, why would you?
-- hokieZ71
Aug 27, 2023 at 12:24 PM ET
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08/27/23 12:24 PM ET