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I think they should stay home.
Three of these programs will have a hard time staying afloat on reduced media payout. Joining The ACC would at least put them in position to collect CPF money when the time comes. But cross-country travel will be torture on their budget.
Stanford has no concerns about budget but they have a different issue. The Cardinal are not able to get help from the portal the way other schools do. Their admissions office is a stern gatekeeper.
I am not convinced that ACC membership is a positive move for these schools or for the conference.
The AAC is courting them. That is also a national footprint enterprise. These four PAC orphans would likely be used exclusively in the late-night window on ESPN+. Rumor is that ESPN would bump the AAC payout.
Moving to The MWC would be the least disruptive in the long run. They would be used in the late-night window by FS1 but, at least, here they would share that duty with a sixteen-team rotation, so maybe twice per season. And the football would often be on linear (FS1). Fox has (reportedly) also agreed to bump the payout. Another advantage of The MWC is that there are only two years remaining on the media contract, if opportunities arise for them to improve their lot. The AAC and ACC deals end in 2034 and 2036 respectively.
The biggest pill to swallow may be the decision to cling to P4 and struggle status or accept a future (perhaps temporarily) in a G5 world.
Thread Replies (30)
On3: As their cruel summer continues, where do Pac-12 schools turn next?
-- Will Stewart
Aug 11, 2023 at 08:19 AM ET
Will Stewart
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08/11/23 08:19 AM ET
Tell ND the ACC will add Stanford and Cal if they join too.
-- Hokester
Aug 11, 2023 at 01:22 PM ET
Hokester
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08/11/23 01:22 PM ET
I think they should stay home.
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-- 33laszlo99
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:28 PM ET
33laszlo99
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08/11/23 12:28 PM ET
LOL Swarbrick you won't add 1 more game to help them!! Look in the mirror!!
-- Stech
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:18 AM ET
Stech
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08/11/23 10:18 AM ET
Maybe Swarbrick should look at the University of Chicago which is a
-- RJHokie
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:25 PM ET
RJHokie
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08/11/23 12:25 PM ET
I agree the whole Swarbrick fiasco was very tone deaf and hypocritical. But
-- goldendomer
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:25 AM ET
goldendomer
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08/11/23 10:25 AM ET
Are you talking about the negotiations between Jack Swarbrick,
-- WBGV
Aug 11, 2023 at 05:00 PM ET
WBGV
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08/11/23 05:00 PM ET
At this point, every statement being made is posturing for something
-- Vienna_Hokie
Aug 11, 2023 at 11:08 AM ET
Vienna_Hokie
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08/11/23 11:08 AM ET
Yep, I have negotiated both sports & business agreements, so much posturing
-- Stech
Aug 11, 2023 at 11:24 AM ET
Stech
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08/11/23 11:24 AM ET
You nailed it on the last line why IMHO they won't add a 6th game, but
-- Stech
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:43 AM ET
Stech
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08/11/23 10:43 AM ET
I agree. Thankfully the ACC teams have finally woken up! Yeah!!!**
-- 132863Hokie
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:49 AM ET
132863Hokie
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08/11/23 10:49 AM ET
They have a home. They should keep it going
-- HokieAl
Aug 11, 2023 at 09:47 AM ET
HokieAl
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08/11/23 09:47 AM ET
Maybe if the Pac-4 do as you say, why not invite a few FCS schools looking
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:26 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/11/23 12:26 PM ET
By NCAA rules, they would need to add either 3 or 4 teams by 2024.
-- Atlee Hokie
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:24 PM ET
Atlee Hokie
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08/11/23 12:24 PM ET
I think it's six teams. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:35 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/11/23 12:35 PM ET
I know it used to be six teams, and probably still is.**
-- RJHokie
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:40 PM ET
RJHokie
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08/11/23 12:40 PM ET
I would totally watch Oregon State at Montana (bucket list stadium)**
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:48 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/11/23 12:48 PM ET
While you in that neck of the woods, pick up the Kibbie Dome. **
-- Big12 guy
Aug 11, 2023 at 03:09 PM ET
Big12 guy
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08/11/23 03:09 PM ET
The last line says it all
-- MrBayAreaHokie
Aug 11, 2023 at 09:38 AM ET
MrBayAreaHokie
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08/11/23 09:38 AM ET
Well, if ND we’re actually in a conference for football…
-- JLM-Hokie
Aug 11, 2023 at 09:22 AM ET
JLM-Hokie
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08/11/23 09:22 AM ET
There are a million different possible permeations out there but
-- Vippie1
Aug 11, 2023 at 09:02 AM ET
Vippie1
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08/11/23 09:02 AM ET
I think that The B1G will continue to add Western programs, but the ones
-- 33laszlo99
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:41 PM ET
33laszlo99
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08/11/23 12:41 PM ET
If they were keeping a spot open for Stanford and Cal, why not take them
-- wwhokie1
Aug 11, 2023 at 09:57 AM ET
wwhokie1
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08/11/23 09:57 AM ET
Bingo. Keeping schools on the back burner hurts the back burner school.
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:10 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/11/23 12:10 PM ET
Precisely, why diminish their value if you have plans to add them?
-- obguthr
Aug 11, 2023 at 10:14 AM ET
obguthr
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08/11/23 10:14 AM ET
Sometimes the conference needs to take a desirable team when the team is
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:17 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/11/23 12:17 PM ET
1) OSU-nw & WSU should just apply to MWC and get it over with,
-- Atlee Hokie
Aug 11, 2023 at 08:57 AM ET
Atlee Hokie
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08/11/23 08:57 AM ET
Would also prefer Oregon State and Wazzu if all other things were equal
-- Maroon Baboon
Aug 11, 2023 at 02:54 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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08/11/23 02:54 PM ET
There should be zero concessions made to FSU. Even if the ACC someshow
-- HokieToph
Aug 11, 2023 at 12:10 PM ET
HokieToph
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08/11/23 12:10 PM ET
Yep, FSU has always had an enormous ego.
-- Old Line Hokie
Aug 11, 2023 at 11:54 AM ET
Old Line Hokie
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08/11/23 11:54 AM ET