Bottom line: show us the money
This is nothing but BS unless someone comes up with the money to support it.
The B1X backed off adding a couple more P-10 schools because the money wasn't there. I think Skipper loves painting rainbows, but he is full of crap.
Show me the $$$$$ Skipper, or shut the crap up!
Thread Replies (67)
Mouse vs the Fox, why wouldn't the Mouse want to merge the ACC PAC to keep
-- Stech
Jun 29, 2023 at 08:47 PM ET
Stech
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06/29/23 08:47 PM ET
I'd rather see use work with the PAC to break up the B12
-- Truthahn
Jul 01, 2023 at 08:41 AM ET
Truthahn
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07/01/23 08:41 AM ET
We are the blue collar misfit conference. You can go ahead and try to be
-- Big12 guy
Jul 01, 2023 at 09:11 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/01/23 09:11 AM ET
P2 isn't the most important ACC goal, being in the CFP 4 every year is.
-- Truthahn
Jul 01, 2023 at 10:46 AM ET
Truthahn
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07/01/23 10:46 AM ET
It's possible I guess. The PAC made a grave error
-- Big12 guy
Jul 01, 2023 at 02:10 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/01/23 02:10 PM ET
IMO, our only chance is to separate ourselves from the PAC/B12
-- Truthahn
Jul 03, 2023 at 11:39 AM ET
Truthahn
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07/03/23 11:39 AM ET
Anything that messes with the current Basketball structure would be bad
-- HokieToph
Jun 30, 2023 at 12:33 PM ET
HokieToph
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06/30/23 12:33 PM ET
I understand why you feel that way, but I have not seen them turn down $$
-- Stech
Jun 30, 2023 at 01:09 PM ET
Stech
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06/30/23 01:09 PM ET
Agreed with the concept
-- SpeakToDamien
Jun 30, 2023 at 10:43 AM ET
SpeakToDamien
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06/30/23 10:43 AM ET
It's not about getting bigger, it's about getting bigger checks
-- wwhokie1
Jun 30, 2023 at 08:53 AM ET
wwhokie1
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06/30/23 08:53 AM ET
I agree, it's about getting bigger checks period IMHO. Skipper thinks there
-- Stech
Jun 30, 2023 at 09:42 AM ET
Stech
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06/30/23 09:42 AM ET
If you merged the best schools from the PAC and the ACC, they might could
-- wwhokie1
Jun 30, 2023 at 04:05 PM ET
wwhokie1
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06/30/23 04:05 PM ET
I don't think that they can. However, what a "best of the rest" conference
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 01, 2023 at 03:41 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/01/23 03:41 AM ET
Bottom line: show us the money
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-- EDGEMAN
Jun 30, 2023 at 06:30 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/30/23 06:30 AM ET
Certainly about if the money is there, but former President of ESPN, has
-- Stech
Jun 30, 2023 at 08:24 AM ET
Stech
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06/30/23 08:24 AM ET
Is there a reason he is no longer the president of ESPN?
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 30, 2023 at 08:30 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/30/23 08:30 AM ET
Yes, but he is well connected & knows the decision metrics used for deals
-- Stech
Jun 30, 2023 at 08:41 AM ET
Stech
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06/30/23 08:41 AM ET
ESPN wants the SEC to win, and Fox wants the B1X to win
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 30, 2023 at 08:45 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/30/23 08:45 AM ET
Could be the case, time will tell, and I don't think it will take much time**
-- Stech
Jun 30, 2023 at 09:35 AM ET
Stech
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06/30/23 09:35 AM ET
Not sure if you've been watching ESPN these last few years, but...
-- EDGEMAN
Jul 01, 2023 at 11:33 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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07/01/23 11:33 AM ET
IMHO ACC football fell off because VT, FSU & Miami hired the wrong coaches
-- Stech
Jun 30, 2023 at 09:49 AM ET
Stech
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06/30/23 09:49 AM ET
The other issue with Miami is there are very few UM fans in South Florida
-- EDGEMAN
Jul 01, 2023 at 11:37 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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07/01/23 11:37 AM ET
Your explanation about hiring the wrong coaches may be right for the ACC's
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 30, 2023 at 02:28 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/30/23 02:28 PM ET
ESPN has one mission, and that is to use every tool to promote the SEC
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 30, 2023 at 08:40 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/30/23 08:40 AM ET
Do you think Disney will sell them?
-- Big12 guy
Jun 30, 2023 at 10:11 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/30/23 10:11 AM ET
ESPN and FOX inflated the media payouts with
-- Big12 guy
Jun 30, 2023 at 11:59 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/30/23 11:59 AM ET
Merger isn't financially viable, but adding a swath of PAC schools is
-- ren_hoek
Jun 29, 2023 at 10:30 PM ET
ren_hoek
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06/29/23 10:30 PM ET
Yeah I don’t think they would merge with all the PAC schools if it happened
-- Stech
Jun 30, 2023 at 10:48 AM ET
Stech
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06/30/23 10:48 AM ET
Would the cable, satellite, and streaming companies pass on the in-state
-- HouClone
Jun 30, 2023 at 07:40 AM ET
HouClone
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06/30/23 07:40 AM ET
What about Colorado? That's a bigger state than Utah.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 29, 2023 at 10:50 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/29/23 10:50 PM ET
If we do this, Colo is better than SMU, IMO.
-- Truthahn
Jun 30, 2023 at 12:41 PM ET
Truthahn
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06/30/23 12:41 PM ET
I would take Colorado for sure. And the reason to take SMU is the Texas
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 30, 2023 at 12:47 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/30/23 12:47 PM ET
I'd rather add UTSA than SMU
-- Truthahn
Jul 01, 2023 at 08:07 AM ET
Truthahn
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07/01/23 08:07 AM ET
This is where i think some on this board go off the deep end.
-- Big12 guy
Jun 29, 2023 at 11:03 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/29/23 11:03 PM ET
Agreed. Being the 3rd P2 conference is off the table
-- VT ChemE 1986
Jun 30, 2023 at 11:58 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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06/30/23 11:58 AM ET
Bingo, as there will only be bragging rights to being #3, #4, or #5. The
-- Big12 guy
Jun 30, 2023 at 12:04 PM ET
Big12 guy
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06/30/23 12:04 PM ET
Outflank the Big 12?
-- Tailgate Guru
Jun 30, 2023 at 08:11 AM ET
Tailgate Guru
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06/30/23 08:11 AM ET
I don't disagree with that. The B12 will never attract the top football
-- Big12 guy
Jun 30, 2023 at 08:58 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/30/23 08:58 AM ET
IMHO BIG 12 GOR is telling
-- MrFantastic!
Jun 30, 2023 at 08:21 AM ET
MrFantastic!
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06/30/23 08:21 AM ET
BC, UL and Wake are already locked in. WSU and OrSt are not.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 30, 2023 at 12:16 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/30/23 12:16 AM ET
We don't have to outflank the Big12
-- ren_hoek
Jun 29, 2023 at 11:52 PM ET
ren_hoek
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06/29/23 11:52 PM ET
This won't close the gap with the P2. Odds are the current payout...
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 30, 2023 at 06:38 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/30/23 06:38 AM ET
Yup. This is about survival. And if survival means
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 30, 2023 at 12:42 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/30/23 12:42 PM ET
ESPN will not want to spend much on 4th window content, PAC or otherwise.
-- 33laszlo99
Jun 29, 2023 at 10:07 PM ET
33laszlo99
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06/29/23 10:07 PM ET
ESPN wouldn't pay enough to make a full merger financially viable
-- cburgroop
Jun 29, 2023 at 09:07 PM ET
cburgroop
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06/29/23 09:07 PM ET
I believe Notre Dame now always play 1 away game every season in CA for
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 29, 2023 at 10:09 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/29/23 10:09 PM ET
But their CA opponent is often a future B1X team**
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 30, 2023 at 08:06 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/30/23 08:06 AM ET
You mean conference mate. Sets up perfectly for them. Play UCLA & USC
-- reestuart
Jun 30, 2023 at 08:51 AM ET
reestuart
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06/30/23 08:51 AM ET
Exactly which is how Notre Dame does it now.**
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 30, 2023 at 11:38 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/30/23 11:38 AM ET
Yep. Big Ten-NBC. USC & UCLA joining. The only question is when
-- reestuart
Jun 30, 2023 at 11:56 AM ET
reestuart
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06/30/23 11:56 AM ET
Particularly if the Big Ten gets large enough to where they could opt for
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 30, 2023 at 02:20 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/30/23 02:20 PM ET
Yeah, none of the Big Ten members will care if ND draws the 2 Cali schools.
-- reestuart
Jun 30, 2023 at 02:51 PM ET
reestuart
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06/30/23 02:51 PM ET
That could be easily done.
-- cburgroop
Jun 30, 2023 at 07:38 AM ET
cburgroop
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06/30/23 07:38 AM ET
Who would be Notre Dame's away CA opponent in years Notre Dame plays
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 30, 2023 at 11:37 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/30/23 11:37 AM ET
Those could work as OOC games. Where I was going with the question was
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 30, 2023 at 02:17 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/30/23 02:17 PM ET
No worries. Even if Notre Dame were to join the Big Ten for all sports, I
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 03, 2023 at 07:35 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/03/23 07:35 PM ET
It is kind of a Catch 22 when it comes to number of teams to invite.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jun 29, 2023 at 09:57 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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06/29/23 09:57 PM ET
Playing too many East Coast teams might be that big of an issue given that
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 29, 2023 at 10:12 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/29/23 10:12 PM ET