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MrFantastic!

IMHO BIG 12 GOR is telling

No one seems confident in moving.
Posted: 06/30/2023 at 08:21 AM ET
(In response to this post by Tailgate Guru)

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Mouse vs the Fox, why wouldn't the Mouse want to merge the ACC PAC to keep
Stech • 06/29/23 08:47 PM ET
I'd rather see use work with the PAC to break up the B12
Truthahn • 07/01/23 08:41 AM ET
We are the blue collar misfit conference. You can go ahead and try to be
Big12 guy • 07/01/23 09:11 AM ET
P2 isn't the most important ACC goal, being in the CFP 4 every year is.
Truthahn • 07/01/23 10:46 AM ET
It's possible I guess. The PAC made a grave error
Big12 guy • 07/01/23 02:10 PM ET
IMO, our only chance is to separate ourselves from the PAC/B12
Truthahn • 07/03/23 11:39 AM ET
Anything that messes with the current Basketball structure would be bad
HokieToph • 06/30/23 12:33 PM ET
I understand why you feel that way, but I have not seen them turn down $$
Stech • 06/30/23 01:09 PM ET
Agreed with the concept
SpeakToDamien • 06/30/23 10:43 AM ET
It's not about getting bigger, it's about getting bigger checks
wwhokie1 • 06/30/23 08:53 AM ET
I agree, it's about getting bigger checks period IMHO. Skipper thinks there
Stech • 06/30/23 09:42 AM ET
If you merged the best schools from the PAC and the ACC, they might could
wwhokie1 • 06/30/23 04:05 PM ET
I don't think that they can. However, what a "best of the rest" conference
Maroon Baboon • 07/01/23 03:41 AM ET
Bottom line: show us the money
EDGEMAN • 06/30/23 06:30 AM ET
Certainly about if the money is there, but former President of ESPN, has
Stech • 06/30/23 08:24 AM ET
Is there a reason he is no longer the president of ESPN?
EDGEMAN • 06/30/23 08:30 AM ET
Yes, but he is well connected & knows the decision metrics used for deals
Stech • 06/30/23 08:41 AM ET
ESPN wants the SEC to win, and Fox wants the B1X to win
EDGEMAN • 06/30/23 08:45 AM ET
Could be the case, time will tell, and I don't think it will take much time**
Stech • 06/30/23 09:35 AM ET
ah
MrFantastic! • 06/30/23 09:14 AM ET
Not sure if you've been watching ESPN these last few years, but...
EDGEMAN • 07/01/23 11:33 AM ET
IMHO ACC football fell off because VT, FSU & Miami hired the wrong coaches
Stech • 06/30/23 09:49 AM ET
The other issue with Miami is there are very few UM fans in South Florida
EDGEMAN • 07/01/23 11:37 AM ET
Your explanation about hiring the wrong coaches may be right for the ACC's
VTHokie2000 • 06/30/23 02:28 PM ET
Drug problem,........
2hhoop3 • 06/30/23 08:32 AM ET
ESPN has one mission, and that is to use every tool to promote the SEC
EDGEMAN • 06/30/23 08:40 AM ET
ESPN's problem,....
2hhoop3 • 06/30/23 10:08 AM ET
Do you think Disney will sell them?
Big12 guy • 06/30/23 10:11 AM ET
Apple and Amazon.......
2hhoop3 • 06/30/23 11:41 AM ET
ESPN and FOX inflated the media payouts with
Big12 guy • 06/30/23 11:59 AM ET
FOX/NBC/CBS........
2hhoop3 • 06/30/23 12:35 PM ET
Merger isn't financially viable, but adding a swath of PAC schools is
ren_hoek • 06/29/23 10:30 PM ET
Yeah I don’t think they would merge with all the PAC schools if it happened
Stech • 06/30/23 10:48 AM ET
Would the cable, satellite, and streaming companies pass on the in-state
HouClone • 06/30/23 07:40 AM ET
Not a question.......
2hhoop3 • 06/30/23 07:58 AM ET
What about Colorado? That's a bigger state than Utah.
Maroon Baboon • 06/29/23 10:50 PM ET
If we do this, Colo is better than SMU, IMO.
Truthahn • 06/30/23 12:41 PM ET
I would take Colorado for sure. And the reason to take SMU is the Texas
Maroon Baboon • 06/30/23 12:47 PM ET
I'd rather add UTSA than SMU
Truthahn • 07/01/23 08:07 AM ET
This is where i think some on this board go off the deep end.
Big12 guy • 06/29/23 11:03 PM ET
Agreed. Being the 3rd P2 conference is off the table
VT ChemE 1986 • 06/30/23 11:58 AM ET
Bingo, as there will only be bragging rights to being #3, #4, or #5. The
Big12 guy • 06/30/23 12:04 PM ET
Outflank the Big 12?
Tailgate Guru • 06/30/23 08:11 AM ET
I don't disagree with that. The B12 will never attract the top football
Big12 guy • 06/30/23 08:58 AM ET
IMHO BIG 12 GOR is telling ◄
MrFantastic! • 06/30/23 08:21 AM ET
BC, UL and Wake are already locked in. WSU and OrSt are not.
Maroon Baboon • 06/30/23 12:16 AM ET
We don't have to outflank the Big12
ren_hoek • 06/29/23 11:52 PM ET
This won't close the gap with the P2. Odds are the current payout...
EDGEMAN • 06/30/23 06:38 AM ET
False
ren_hoek • 06/30/23 09:14 AM ET
Yup. This is about survival. And if survival means
Maroon Baboon • 06/30/23 12:42 PM ET
One reason,..........
2hhoop3 • 06/30/23 08:08 AM ET
ESPN will not want to spend much on 4th window content, PAC or otherwise.
33laszlo99 • 06/29/23 10:07 PM ET
ESPN wouldn't pay enough to make a full merger financially viable
cburgroop • 06/29/23 09:07 PM ET
I believe Notre Dame now always play 1 away game every season in CA for
VTHokie2000 • 06/29/23 10:09 PM ET
But their CA opponent is often a future B1X team**
EDGEMAN • 06/30/23 08:06 AM ET
You mean conference mate. Sets up perfectly for them. Play UCLA & USC
reestuart • 06/30/23 08:51 AM ET
Exactly which is how Notre Dame does it now.**
VTHokie2000 • 06/30/23 11:38 AM ET
Yep. Big Ten-NBC. USC & UCLA joining. The only question is when
reestuart • 06/30/23 11:56 AM ET
Particularly if the Big Ten gets large enough to where they could opt for
VTHokie2000 • 06/30/23 02:20 PM ET
Yeah, none of the Big Ten members will care if ND draws the 2 Cali schools.
reestuart • 06/30/23 02:51 PM ET
That could be easily done.
cburgroop • 06/30/23 07:38 AM ET
Who would be Notre Dame's away CA opponent in years Notre Dame plays
VTHokie2000 • 06/30/23 11:37 AM ET
Some possibilities
TerryD • 06/30/23 01:14 PM ET
Those could work as OOC games. Where I was going with the question was
VTHokie2000 • 06/30/23 02:17 PM ET
Sorry. Misunderstood.
TerryD • 07/01/23 12:51 AM ET
No worries. Even if Notre Dame were to join the Big Ten for all sports, I
VTHokie2000 • 07/03/23 07:35 PM ET
It is kind of a Catch 22 when it comes to number of teams to invite.
Maroon Baboon • 06/29/23 09:57 PM ET
Playing too many East Coast teams might be that big of an issue given that
VTHokie2000 • 06/29/23 10:12 PM ET