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Maroon Baboon
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Maroon Baboon

Pros vs Cons

Pros: -East Coast exposure for Pac-12 schools -Fresh blood for ACC -Pac-12 survival -More money via the expansion of the ACCN -Helps ACC bide time -Far more interesting Conference Championship Game -Academic profile of both conferences maintained Con: -Length of GOR for Pac-12 (Skipper didn't mention this, but it's the elephant in the room) -Travel costs -Possibility of leaving out some current Pac-12 schools -one less conference champion (for CFP and NCAAT concerns) Both ways: -Scheduling (could be a negative, but if they do it right, it should be a positive. More conference game. Get rid of some OOC games) I think this should totally be explored and studied. One question I have is how valuable is adding one school from a new state to the ACCN? How big does the state need to be to make money for all members? How big does it need to be to add two members (Cal and Stanford?). What is the ACC would add these schools from these new states? Would it make money? Washington Oregon California Arizona State Colorado Utah SMU (Texas--big state) Tulane (Louisiana--small state) In the end, it comes down to making money for the existing members. So what makes money? ** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 5/29/2023, 1:04:05 PM
Posted: 05/29/2023 at 12:59 PM ET
(In response to this post by ren_hoek)

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Do what Skipper says...
ren_hoek • 05/29/23 09:37 AM ET
I like his point about the SEC not expanding
SpeakToDamien • 05/30/23 12:39 AM ET
if,,,,,
MrFantastic! • 05/30/23 08:57 AM ET
This is as absurd as the idea of Notre Dame full time in the ACC
OrlandoHokie • 05/29/23 11:07 PM ET
When the ACC adds five Pac12 schools this summer, buy me a beer.**
hokieZ71 • 05/29/23 11:21 PM ET
He’s a former ESPN President, who takes a shot at B1G/Fox, he wants UNC in
Stech • 05/29/23 09:41 PM ET
Some good points.....
2hhoop3 • 05/29/23 10:31 PM ET
For the Carolina schools against each other, you’re right. The ACC runs
Stech • 05/29/23 11:27 PM ET
He's a former ESECPN guy who still spouts the network
ancient alien 2018 • 05/29/23 08:03 PM ET
He didn't provide a business reason though
HokieAl • 05/29/23 04:25 PM ET
The main problem with the ACC helps west coast schools’ road trips, though.
hokieZ71 • 05/29/23 07:23 PM ET
Admittedly, travel is indeed a con**
ren_hoek • 05/29/23 07:45 PM ET
Consider the source: former ESPN CEO and ACC network architect
ren_hoek • 05/29/23 04:48 PM ET
I'm sure he wouldn't suggest anything that decreases the current payout...
EDGEMAN • 05/29/23 05:54 PM ET
You haven't watched his interviews on this
ren_hoek • 05/29/23 06:54 PM ET
Yes ACC Contract has a Pro Rata.
HOO86 • 05/30/23 05:47 AM ET
Pro rata. So the ACC can add teams without reducing payouts. But how does
Femoyer Hokie • 05/30/23 07:00 AM ET
The Payout for ACC Network Subscribers go up in new states.
HOO86 • 05/30/23 09:06 AM ET
Pros vs Cons ◄
Maroon Baboon • 05/29/23 12:59 PM ET
There are a number of combinations that would increase the ACC per team
HOO86 • 05/30/23 01:12 PM ET
Lol at SMU
SpeakToDamien • 05/30/23 07:48 AM ET
Purely for getting the ACCN into Texas. Simple money grab.
Maroon Baboon • 05/30/23 07:59 AM ET
None of those schools would add money to the ACC imo. Oregon, possibly.**
IB4TECH • 05/29/23 04:45 PM ET
Yes, they would.
hokieZ71 • 05/29/23 08:20 PM ET
Adding 4-5 biggest schools from the PAC would be great...I would also go
hoodat • 05/30/23 06:34 AM ET
Do you think Skipper would suggest a money losing course of action? I don't**
ren_hoek • 05/29/23 04:51 PM ET
No, he's a former network hack and wants the ACC to remain where they are
ancient alien 2018 • 05/29/23 08:04 PM ET
Interesting to see how he is perceived by different people.
33laszlo99 • 05/29/23 08:42 PM ET
It won't lose money for ESPN, but ACC schools will take it in the shorts.**
EDGEMAN • 05/29/23 05:55 PM ET
Simply not true. There is a pro rata clause in the contract **
ren_hoek • 05/29/23 06:55 PM ET
So you say we'll continue to receive the same money, but our travel costs..
EDGEMAN • 05/30/23 05:25 AM ET
The "band-aid on the severed limb-being-held-together-by-scotch-tape" conf
TDVick • 05/29/23 04:26 PM ET
If you go that route, the new PACC is the trigger for legally disbanding
BAMRising • 05/29/23 02:25 PM ET
I think I misunderstood your post, if so correct me.
Stech • 05/29/23 03:53 PM ET
Both conferences are bringing resources to the table; conference schools +
BAMRising • 05/29/23 10:25 PM ET
Cull the weakest
SpeakToDamien • 05/30/23 03:50 AM ET
Expanding does not open up the GOR
ren_hoek • 05/29/23 04:27 PM ET
Contraction followed by .expansion (merger of a better aligned ACC).
BAMRising • 05/29/23 11:30 PM ET
If there was a merger, I don't think it unreasonable for each team to play
Maroon Baboon • 05/29/23 04:05 PM ET
My post was taking into consideration that the 14 ACC members are going to
Maroon Baboon • 05/29/23 03:10 PM ET
The question is what reopens the contract for negotiation?
ren_hoek • 05/29/23 01:23 PM ET
Supposedly 3 five year look ins
mrcaniac • 05/29/23 09:54 PM ET
I have a feeling it has been discussed
obguthr • 05/29/23 10:54 AM ET
If schools are moving conferences, you don’t hear a peep until it happens**
hokieZ71 • 05/29/23 11:46 AM ET
It is about......
2hhoop3 • 05/29/23 11:24 AM ET
I don't buy that at all
ren_hoek • 05/29/23 11:17 AM ET
Who the hell is this Skipper you refer to in all your posts **
ZekeVT • 05/29/23 01:28 PM ET
Former CEO of ESPN
ren_hoek • 05/29/23 01:42 PM ET