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CFP-16 with no byes and no one idle during conference championship week š”
Here's how it can be done, and here's what it would look like.
CFP-16 field would include: 6 conference champions, 4 conference runners-up, and 6 at-large.
The 6 at-large the winners of a 12-team play-in game field. These games are played the same weekend as conference championship games. These would be the top 12 teams NOT playing in a CCG that weekend. Would most likely be Notre Dame and 11 P4s. No conference can have more than 6 of the 12, and there can be no in-conference matchups.
The eventual CFP-16 teams would then be straight seeded.
Using the CFP rankings from the year, it would look like this:
Play in bracket (top 6 get home games, small adjustments made to prevent in-conference match-ups:
Syracuse at Notre Dame
Illinois at Tennessee
Missouri at Ohio State
South Carolina at Indiana
BYU at Alabama
Ole Miss vs. Miami
(first team OUT: Colorado)
Assuming the home teams won, the CFP-16 would look like this:
(16) Army vs. (1) Oregon
(9) Boise State vs. (8) Indiana
(12) Arizona State vs. (5) Notre Dame
(13) Miami vs. (4) Penn State
(14) Clemson vs. (3) Texas
(11) Alabama vs. (6) Ohio State
(10) SMU vs. (7) Tennessee
(15) Iowa State vs. (2) Georgia
In this scenario: SEC has 4, B1G has 4, ACC has 3, BigXII has 2, G5 has 2, plus ND.
This would eliminate the asinine idea of giving conferences a set amount of bids before the season even starts. And more interest and incentive would be created. And lets face it, the rankings are gonna be skewed to the P2. But at least the other conferences will have reasonable access.
A couple issues I see:
How is the Army-Navy Game worked around if either of those schools were in the CFP contention? Army was the AAC champion and finished the season ranked #22 in the final CFP Poll. Army is the #16 seed in the CFP-16 scenario listed above.
Would CFP-16 games be played on campus? If so, would we want the highest seeds getting the home games, or would we want conference champions to get home games? Assuming CG games are at neutral sites, would we prefer Ohio State, Notre Dame, Indiana, and Tennessee get a second home game, or do we prefer conference champions ASU, Clemson, Boise, and Army get the home games. If the latter is chosen, then the bracket will need to be tweaked to allow that in the most sensible way possible.
It might look like this
Assuming the home teams won, the CFP-16 would look like this:
(16) Iowa State at (1) Oregon
(9) Notre Dame at (8) Army
(12) Indiana at (5) Boise State
(13) SMU at (4) Penn State
(14) Alabama at (3) Texas
(11) Tennessee vs. (6) Arizona State
(10) OSU vs. (7) Clemson
(15) Miami vs. (2) Georgia
Just at first glance, I think I prefer the first way (straight seeding). But I don't know. What do y'all think?
OR, perhaps you could just move the champions down far enough to avoid other champions so they can all have a home game, so it might look like this:
(15) Iowa State at (1) Oregon
(8) Indiana at (9) Boise State
(5) Notre Dame at 16) Army
(10) SMU at (4) Penn State
(11) Alabama at (3) Texas
(6) Ohio State at 14) Clemson
(7) Tennessee at (12) Arizona State
(13) Miami vs. (2) Georgia
To avoid two straight home games by non-champions, and rewarding conference champs with a home game. Also gives SEC and B1G runners up (who played in a neutral sites conference title game) a deserving home game. As a side note, I would flip SMU and Alabama to avoid the SEC match-up of Alabama-Texas in the first round. So it would be Alabama at Penn State and SMU at Texas instead. It would also avoid having all four SEC teams in the bottom half of the bracket. So, it would look like this.
(15) Iowa State at (1) Oregon
(8) Indiana at (9) Boise State
(5) Notre Dame at 16) Army
(11) Alabama at (4) Penn State
(10) SMU at (3) Texas
(6) Ohio State at 14) Clemson
(7) Tennessee at (12) Arizona State
(13) Miami vs. (2) Georgia
Yeah, I think I like this 4th option the best.
** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 5/25/2025, 9:55:58 AM
Posted: 05/24/2025 at 03:58 PM ET
Thread Replies (14)
CFP-16 with no byes and no one idle during conference championship week š”
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-- Maroon Baboon
May 24, 2025 at 03:58 PM ET
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05/24/25 03:58 PM ET
There should never have been byes in the playoff.
-- EDGEMAN
May 24, 2025 at 07:04 PM ET
EDGEMAN
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05/24/25 07:04 PM ET
The other problem is, the teams not playing in a CCG need to be playing
-- Maroon Baboon
May 24, 2025 at 07:26 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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05/24/25 07:26 PM ET
Not sure how you structure that without knowing the
-- Pylons
May 25, 2025 at 12:01 PM ET
Pylons
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05/25/25 12:01 PM ET
Fair point. The setup without saying it out loud is the P4 CG losers are in
-- Maroon Baboon
May 25, 2025 at 12:13 PM ET
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05/25/25 12:13 PM ET
Some teams play week 0 & some play CCG, get rid of that, all play week 0 &
-- Stech
May 26, 2025 at 07:55 AM ET
Stech
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05/26/25 07:55 AM ET
I am referring to the notion that some teams play in a championship game
-- Maroon Baboon
May 26, 2025 at 10:02 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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05/26/25 10:02 AM ET
Iām okay with spreading them out if they want to, but I would rather VT WVU
-- Stech
May 26, 2025 at 01:19 PM ET
Stech
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05/26/25 01:19 PM ET
If the current ideas get adopted (4-4-2-2-1 or similar), OOC games won't
-- Maroon Baboon
May 26, 2025 at 01:27 PM ET
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05/26/25 01:27 PM ET
Under the current media deals, the CC's are contracted, and bring
-- Big12 guy
May 26, 2025 at 10:24 AM ET
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05/26/25 10:24 AM ET
The issue is, they DON'T want to do away with them.
-- Maroon Baboon
May 26, 2025 at 10:41 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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05/26/25 10:41 AM ET
They don't want to do away with the revenue. At this point,
-- Big12 guy
May 26, 2025 at 10:46 AM ET
Big12 guy
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05/26/25 10:46 AM ET
They aren't going to just get rid of it.
-- Maroon Baboon
May 26, 2025 at 10:53 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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05/26/25 10:53 AM ET
Just file a lawasuit against the NCAA, and get
-- Big12 guy
May 26, 2025 at 09:50 AM ET
Big12 guy
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05/26/25 09:50 AM ET
i think you have a very good idea.**
-- daveinop
May 24, 2025 at 06:57 PM ET
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05/24/25 06:57 PM ET