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The NCAA vs. the courts, in an effort to stop the employment model (On3)W

Why the NCAA has put all efforts to derail employment model in Congress' hands -- Eric Prisbell, On3 As Charlie Baker fielded questions from federal lawmakers for the first time since becoming NCAA president in March, the focus of the 10th NIL hearing on Capitol Hill turned to the industry's most consequential matchup: The NCAA vs. the courts. The NCAA has decided that begging Congress for federal legislation – that specifically includes limited antitrust protection and a designation that athletes are not university employees – is its best, and perhaps only, defense against what many see as an inevitability: the coming employee model. The employment train is barreling down the tracks. Amateur hour is over. And the NCAA views a congressional lifeline as the only way to derail it. This is the NCAA's fourth-down Hail Mary pass – throwing into the wind. "Even employee status, all this is about is, 'We don't want to pay them [athletes] fairly," witness Ramogi Huma, a longtime athlete advocate, said during the hearing. "We're talking about equal rights. And this industry is operating in illegal fashion. It is breaking antitrust law. Breaking labor law. And now it's coming home." Don't be distracted by Senators describing the NIL world as "dangerous chaos" or "absolute chaos" or mere "chaos." The beleaguered NCAA sees the writing on the legal wall: In a post-Alston world, federal courts are increasingly looking askance at the association. Plenty of battles are afoot: The high-stakes House antitrust case is proceeding in Oakland, while the Johnson lawsuit is ongoing in Pennsylvania. Meantime, the important National Labor Relations Board hearing begins next month over the unfair labor practice charges against the NCAA, Pac-12 and USC. Baker's contention is that an employment model would force Division II and III schools to drop sports to club level because they wouldn't be able to afford them. David Ridpath is a professor of sports business at Ohio University who has appeared before numerous congressional committees regarding college athletics. He saw Baker, Notre Dame Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick and Big Ten Commissioner Tony Petitti acting like college athletes are students while treating them as employees – but not giving the full rights of either category to the athlete. "The sad reality is people on that panel put us where we are now," Ridpath told On3. "It is not about education. It is largely professional sports. The leaders do not want to unwind that because of the money and pressure to win, so they are hoping to have it both ways – and that will never work." – Eric Prisbell Posted by Will Stewart on another board, since many of you are from other schools, I thought it deserved a lively discussion here too. It sure got many post on the other board that is almost all Hokies. What do you say about the future of college sports? ** Edited by Stech at 10/18/2023, 9:51:22 PM
Posted: 10/18/2023 at 09:49 PM ET

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The NCAA vs. the courts, in an effort to stop the employment model (On3)W
Stech 10/18/23 09:49 PM ET
I think its interesting the spokesmen comes from ohio
Mercury 10/20/23 07:21 AM ET
Should colleges get out of the football and basketball sports business?
EDGEMAN 10/20/23 06:10 AM ET
The nfl makes huge profits how bout to the students
Mercury 10/20/23 07:19 AM ET
The NFL doesn't need to do that, they only want 250 of the roughly 3,500 D1
VTNuke 10/22/23 10:27 AM ET
How about the NFL team pays the school the player came from when...
EDGEMAN 10/23/23 04:31 PM ET
Zero incentive for the NFL to do this
mrcaniac 10/23/23 09:57 PM ET
Why would the NFL do that? And how does that help the players?
VTNuke 10/23/23 09:34 PM ET
Not realistic, Title IX, tax exempt status, both stand in the way of that
Vienna_Hokie 10/22/23 10:05 AM ET
If football and basketball become semi-pro sports (more than they are now)
EDGEMAN 10/23/23 06:28 AM ET
If they are affiliated with the schools, using facilities...
Vienna_Hokie 10/23/23 08:53 PM ET
But once they become "employees," everything changes.**
EDGEMAN 10/23/23 10:33 PM ET
Not necessarily because Title IX doesn't just apply to students.
VTHokie2000 10/24/23 06:37 PM ET
No school is going to take a "Title IX doesn't apply to this" stance
mrcaniac 10/24/23 11:14 PM ET
That is likely true which makes things interesting given the trajectory
VTHokie2000 10/25/23 01:22 PM ET
They will be classified as employees also
mrcaniac 10/25/23 03:22 PM ET
That is the most likely outcome which could influence how many schools opt
VTHokie2000 10/25/23 05:24 PM ET
The answer to that question will depend on the application of Title IX.
VTHokie2000 10/23/23 04:52 PM ET
That's sort of what Fox and ESPN are doing now...only funding a small...
EDGEMAN 10/20/23 08:13 AM ET
agree. now its going to be transparent.**
Mercury 10/20/23 08:38 AM ET
Time to have a college "pro" division with no finance rules.
EDGEMAN 10/21/23 08:06 AM ET
Let the P2 have their own basketball tournament, and college world series
Big12 guy 10/23/23 10:49 AM ET
I like the EPL model, where teams that suck move down, and the best...
EDGEMAN 10/21/23 08:08 AM ET
Help me out Edge, what is EPL model?**
ancient alien 2018 10/21/23 10:51 PM ET
Check out Promotion and relegation section of this link
EDGEMAN 10/22/23 04:12 AM ET
Oh, soccer. OK thanks**
ancient alien 2018 10/22/23 09:51 PM ET
I'd love to see Terry Tate pay a visit to Joe Manchin.**
reestuart 10/19/23 12:35 PM ET
"...so they are hoping to have it both ways – and that will never work."
daveinop 10/19/23 08:36 AM ET
The only way they will get around paying student athletes is through
Big12 guy 10/19/23 11:04 AM ET
Nope, paying employees has nothing to do with their 501(C) status
Vienna_Hokie 10/22/23 09:59 AM ET
non-profits can make money and have employees
daveinop 10/21/23 05:50 PM ET
Paying players will not affect Non-profit status. Non-profits typically
33laszlo99 10/19/23 11:27 AM ET