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I don't disagree about people's perception of VT. Hence why I was asking
the question from a more national audience perspective. Historically (going back to the Big 8 days), when Kansas, K-State, and Iowa State were in the cellar, the only times they seemed to get on the RSN station was when they were playing either the marquee Big 8 team or whichever Big 8 team was "hot" that season. So for those games, how much of the ratings can be attributed to them vs. their opponent? If the rivalry games made it to the RSN (including Kansas-Mizzou), then it was usually because their was a bigger Big 8 game on one of the other channels. That trend seemed to continue into the Big XII until those 3 programs had their various "magical runs" that changed people's perceptions even for a brief moment.
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Sad that the Big12 has to ask a court permission to enforce its own rules
-- VT ChemE 1986
Jun 15, 2026 at 11:37 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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06/15/26 11:37 AM ET
I thought only unstable conference like the ACC is going through a legal
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jun 15, 2026 at 01:35 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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06/15/26 01:35 PM ET
I know you're trying to be funny, but this demonstrates the opposite-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 15, 2026 at 02:32 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/15/26 02:32 PM ET
Yeah they are "unified" against its member school
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jun 15, 2026 at 07:33 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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06/15/26 07:33 PM ET
I think the "stability" in the Big 12 is inherent in the fact the-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 16, 2026 at 08:58 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/16/26 08:58 AM ET
I get your point about BC and Wake. But going forward, they will get paid
-- RandomAsianGuy
Jun 16, 2026 at 12:06 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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06/16/26 12:06 PM ET
Even though Baylor has 7 SWC championships, historically it hasn't been
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 16, 2026 at 09:31 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/16/26 09:31 AM ET
I won't discount perception, especially
-- Big12 guy
Jun 16, 2026 at 10:39 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/16/26 10:39 AM ET
I don't disagree about people's perception of VT. Hence why I was asking
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-- VTHokie2000
Jun 16, 2026 at 11:00 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/16/26 11:00 AM ET
No doubt. When they were bad, they were
-- Big12 guy
Jun 16, 2026 at 11:12 AM ET
Big12 guy
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06/16/26 11:12 AM ET
VT getting into the Big East Football Conference was a real game changer
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 16, 2026 at 11:24 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/16/26 11:24 AM ET
I'd have to find it again, but I read somewhere recently that Wake Forest-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jun 16, 2026 at 10:12 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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06/16/26 10:12 AM ET
I don't disagree with you about BC's and Wake's value or the mindset of the
-- VTHokie2000
Jun 16, 2026 at 10:49 AM ET
VTHokie2000
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06/16/26 10:49 AM ET
Yep. Not a single B12 school would stay if they had a P2 ticket
-- EDGEMAN
Jun 16, 2026 at 05:42 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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06/16/26 05:42 AM ET