Can we stop the obsession with the ACCN? The ACCN is small potatoes-
in the grand scheme of things. Nobody watches it. That's why they don't post viewership numbers.
It's not a product that anyone actually wants, it's just a swindle perpetrated on people that don't know how to pirate broadcasts. At its core, it's more or less the same scam that the casinos in Vegas run when they tack on unadvertised "resort fees" to their hotel prices. It generates money, but it only does so by being a pork barrel tack-on to cable and streaming packages that people have to buy so they can watch other channels. And, the ACC was the last johnny-come-lately that was able to jump on the scam before they shut it down.
The conference networks, including the BTN and SECN, are all relics of legacy linear cable packages. They would not be a thing today, because there's no need. You just put the games on the Fox Sports app, or the ESPN app, and charge people more. Once cable finally dies out as a thing, so will the entire concept of the conference network, and it will just become a box to choose on a streaming app.
To more directly address your post - I sincerely believe that ESPN would toss the ACC and the ACCN in the trash bin of history tomorrow if they could cherry pick the best teams out of the Big 12 and ACC, create a new conference, and then own that conference's media rights. They want to own media rights to football games that people want to watch. That's as far as their "loyalty" goes. They don't pay the ACC because they love the ACC. They're doing it so they can put the one Clemson and FSU game a year when they play an SEC or Big 10 program at home on ABC or ESPN, and have plenty of filler content left over to fill the selection boxes on their streaming app.
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Curious about payments to get out of conference
-- The_VT_Rock
Jul 01, 2026 at 09:56 AM ET
The_VT_Rock
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07/01/26 09:56 AM ET
If the Mag 7+1 leave, it’s very different answer than a couple leaving.**
-- Stech
Jul 01, 2026 at 03:28 PM ET
Stech
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07/01/26 03:28 PM ET
If P2 goes to 24 the ACC probably loses at least 11
-- 4x4hokies
Jul 03, 2026 at 07:06 PM ET
4x4hokies
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07/03/26 07:06 PM ET
ACC will lose Mag 7+1 IMHO in that scenario, maybe Stanford &Cal too, but
-- Stech
Jul 03, 2026 at 07:43 PM ET
Stech
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07/03/26 07:43 PM ET
I doubt ESPN would be active on breaking up the Big 12. They tried before.
-- HouClone
Jul 04, 2026 at 12:03 PM ET
HouClone
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07/04/26 12:03 PM ET
ESPN will want the best ratings they can get, some B12 teams would help
-- Stech
Jul 04, 2026 at 02:23 PM ET
Stech
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07/04/26 02:23 PM ET
Sad part it really is not ESPN that is the final decision.
-- HouClone
Jul 04, 2026 at 04:47 PM ET
HouClone
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07/04/26 04:47 PM ET
Presidents do have a say, but ESPN is only willing to pay 4 certain schools
-- Stech
Jul 06, 2026 at 07:48 AM ET
Stech
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07/06/26 07:48 AM ET
I see Stanford, Cal and ND going in an exodus **
-- 4x4hokies
Jul 03, 2026 at 08:00 PM ET
4x4hokies
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07/03/26 08:00 PM ET
In an exodus, that’s certainly possible.**
-- Stech
Jul 04, 2026 at 02:20 PM ET
Stech
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07/04/26 02:20 PM ET
I'd recommend finding a private equity investor to front the exit fee. TIC**
-- MP4VT2004
Jul 01, 2026 at 02:54 PM ET
MP4VT2004
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07/01/26 02:54 PM ET
It really doesn't matter - if they get a chance to jump, they have to jump.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 01, 2026 at 01:03 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/01/26 01:03 PM ET
Rather than wait around for the inevitable, can the ACC self-prune?
-- VT ChemE 1986
Jul 06, 2026 at 10:32 AM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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07/06/26 10:32 AM ET
I don't think there's a viable way to do it.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 06, 2026 at 10:36 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/06/26 10:36 AM ET
You really think ESPN w/ 50% of ACCN is going to pick that over the B12?
-- Stech
Jul 03, 2026 at 12:40 PM ET
Stech
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07/03/26 12:40 PM ET
Can we stop the obsession with the ACCN? The ACCN is small potatoes-
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-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 06, 2026 at 10:01 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/06/26 10:01 AM ET
585M and up 16%, it’s facts and linked below, ignore it if you choose.**
-- Stech
Jul 06, 2026 at 02:10 PM ET
Stech
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07/06/26 02:10 PM ET
Please go back and read my post again, carefully.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 07, 2026 at 10:20 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/07/26 10:20 AM ET
Look at how I edited your subject line.
-- Will Stewart
Jul 07, 2026 at 12:44 PM ET
Will Stewart
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07/07/26 12:44 PM ET
Point taken. Thanks, Will.**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 07, 2026 at 02:11 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/07/26 02:11 PM ET
Me thinks the conference networks are a failed business model. If
-- Big12 guy
Jul 03, 2026 at 02:37 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/03/26 02:37 PM ET
The ACC's record revenue was reportedly fueled by $588.5 million in tele-
-- Stech
Jul 03, 2026 at 03:14 PM ET
Stech
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07/03/26 03:14 PM ET
This is so for one reason and one reason only-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 07, 2026 at 10:24 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/07/26 10:24 AM ET
This is interesting as thought
-- HouClone
Jul 04, 2026 at 10:22 PM ET
HouClone
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07/04/26 10:22 PM ET
Point well taken, but even you
-- Big12 guy
Jul 03, 2026 at 03:44 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/03/26 03:44 PM ET
Increase was mostly that, I think ESPN thinks of ACC as 🏀 conference 1st,
-- Stech
Jul 03, 2026 at 04:50 PM ET
Stech
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07/03/26 04:50 PM ET
I think the first conference that gets
-- Big12 guy
Jul 03, 2026 at 05:22 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/03/26 05:22 PM ET
I prefer your original idea of the best from the ACC and Big12
-- VT ChemE 1986
Jul 02, 2026 at 03:54 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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07/02/26 03:54 PM ET
I agree with you. Not so much because I think VT can't compete, but because
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Jul 06, 2026 at 10:02 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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07/06/26 10:02 AM ET
We won’t finish 6th, our recruiting will even be better than this year,
-- Stech
Jul 03, 2026 at 03:33 PM ET
Stech
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07/03/26 03:33 PM ET
I encourage you to do the math:
-- VT ChemE 1986
Jul 03, 2026 at 06:05 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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07/03/26 06:05 PM ET
SEC missed Champ game last 3 years *Bama 🤷, A&M 🤷♂️, Ok 🤷♂️, UF🤷♂️,
-- Stech
Jul 07, 2026 at 07:46 AM ET
Stech
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07/07/26 07:46 AM ET
Don't forget LSU. Also, if we join with Clemson and FSU, that brings more
-- wwhokie1
Jul 04, 2026 at 01:26 AM ET
wwhokie1
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07/04/26 01:26 AM ET
Well, we’ve beaten many of them…
-- HOKIEGOBBLE
Jul 03, 2026 at 07:38 PM ET
HOKIEGOBBLE
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07/03/26 07:38 PM ET
Done the math, it will be a different situation recruiting against them
-- Stech
Jul 03, 2026 at 07:38 PM ET
Stech
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07/03/26 07:38 PM ET
If the ACC is collapsing we will have no choice.
-- VT ChemE 1986
Jul 03, 2026 at 10:35 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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07/03/26 10:35 PM ET
I understand that point of view.**
-- Stech
Jul 04, 2026 at 02:19 PM ET
Stech
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07/04/26 02:19 PM ET
Who's the best from the Big 12?
-- HouClone
Jul 02, 2026 at 07:59 PM ET
HouClone
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07/02/26 07:59 PM ET
BigXII: No blue bloods, but no doormats. Just parity.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 03, 2026 at 06:01 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/03/26 06:01 AM ET
One possibility is that if VT (or any other ACC team) is invited to the P2
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 01, 2026 at 11:15 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/01/26 11:15 AM ET
Utah made a PE deal for $500M, and
-- Big12 guy
Jul 01, 2026 at 11:32 AM ET
Big12 guy
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07/01/26 11:32 AM ET
Could very well be, but let's look
-- Big12 guy
Jul 02, 2026 at 05:31 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/02/26 05:31 PM ET
The fact that every single.....
-- 2hhoop3
Jul 02, 2026 at 05:59 PM ET
2hhoop3
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07/02/26 05:59 PM ET
First, I am not endorsing PE in
-- Big12 guy
Jul 02, 2026 at 10:50 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/02/26 10:50 PM ET
I will ask you a question. what
-- Big12 guy
Jul 03, 2026 at 03:39 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/03/26 03:39 PM ET
And I 100% agreed with you when you responded to one
-- Big12 guy
Jul 03, 2026 at 04:05 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/03/26 04:05 PM ET
Now that is a post I can wrap my head around. it's different
-- Big12 guy
Jul 03, 2026 at 05:41 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/03/26 05:41 PM ET
I did not answer your questions because
-- Big12 guy
Jul 03, 2026 at 02:43 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/03/26 02:43 PM ET
I've lost respect for Utah through all of this.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 01, 2026 at 12:22 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/01/26 12:22 PM ET
There are at least 7 states the BiG would target for expansion
-- VT ChemE 1986
Jul 02, 2026 at 04:00 PM ET
VT ChemE 1986
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07/02/26 04:00 PM ET
I'd add AZ. But yeah.**
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 03, 2026 at 01:05 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/03/26 01:05 AM ET
100%. TT however, is getting
-- Big12 guy
Jul 01, 2026 at 12:25 PM ET
Big12 guy
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07/01/26 12:25 PM ET
Yeah, perhaps I was too harsh on TT.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 01, 2026 at 12:55 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/01/26 12:55 PM ET
Depends what kind of deal the SEC/BIG offer for full vs partial payments
-- HokieAl
Jul 01, 2026 at 10:16 AM ET
HokieAl
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07/01/26 10:16 AM ET
The best thing VT can do......
-- 2hhoop3
Jul 01, 2026 at 10:10 AM ET
2hhoop3
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07/01/26 10:10 AM ET
Possibility #3, start kicking bottom teams out. The Big East booted Temple.
-- Truthahn
Jul 02, 2026 at 01:48 PM ET
Truthahn
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07/02/26 01:48 PM ET