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VTHokie2000
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Given that both schools have similar, or the same, origin story

(aka small land-grant military school) and they have ended up on different paths, then that is why they are perfect for comparison because it would identify all the other factors that influenced the school and/or state government to make the decisions they did at any given time. Based on the research I have done for both schools, it appears that the decisions TAMU made in the early 1900s is what allowed TAMU to end up where it is today. While it appears that VT didn't make those decisions until much later. WRT Lane, you are forgetting that when Stuart Cassell proposed building a larger stadium in 1963 to replace Miles Stadium, the project was going to be done over 4 years (1964-68). So there was no risk of demolishing anything because the original construction would have simply followed a different blueprint. Remember when VT played its first game in 1965 against W&M, only the West Stands and center section of the East Stands were completed at the time. My point is that VT decided in the initial construction to have the East and West Stands be different heights for whatever reason. As a result of that decision, it created unnecessary challenges for any future expansion. Given that initial 4-year project officially cost $3.5 million, I do believe VT could have built either a bowl or have the East and West Stands equal height for the same dollar amount and probably the same capacity of 35,050. If VT had gone that route, then any future expansion probably would have been done differently even if Lane still ended up with the same capacity it is today.
Posted: 06/11/2022 at 10:34 AM ET
(In response to this post by 2hhoop3)

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SEC expansion backfiring?
Sunsetunderground • 06/06/22 07:47 PM ET
Playoff expansion to 12 is only a matter of a short time.**
wwhokie1 • 06/18/22 05:48 PM ET
WRT the "teach them for being so greedy" statement, did the ACC learn that
VTHokie2000 • 06/07/22 01:44 PM ET
The Greed in Austin far surpasses
Sunsetunderground • 06/07/22 04:24 PM ET
Maybe so, but your OP was focused on the SEC's decisions and greed.
VTHokie2000 • 06/07/22 04:31 PM ET
Frankly the ACC's greed wasn't for purely financial reasons
EDGEMAN • 06/07/22 05:59 PM ET
Or the ACC's greed was still purely financial and it just shows the ACC was
VTHokie2000 • 06/07/22 06:10 PM ET
Not making VT their #1 or #2 target shows how short sighted they were.
EDGEMAN • 06/08/22 08:13 AM ET
What (if anything) does that say about VT since it had been trying for 50
VTHokie2000 • 06/08/22 09:25 AM ET
With our addition, the ACC was awesome
Truthahn • 06/09/22 11:39 AM ET
I'm not sure the ACC had a 50 year history of short sighted behavior
jmanatVT • 06/09/22 10:24 AM ET
WRT the ACC adding Georgia Tech, technically Georgia Tech joined in 1979
VTHokie2000 • 06/09/22 01:44 PM ET
The ACC's decision.....
2hhoop3 • 06/07/22 09:20 PM ET
Survival or a prolonged death?
VTHokie2000 • 06/07/22 10:02 PM ET
Survival.....
2hhoop3 • 06/08/22 11:42 AM ET
It also increases the risk that the ACC will be left holding an empty bag
VTHokie2000 • 06/08/22 12:04 PM ET
VT was blinded by it's 50 yr fixation on the ACC.
Atlee Hokie • 06/14/22 10:17 AM ET
If you are....
2hhoop3 • 06/09/22 11:04 AM ET
WRT "VT's focus on athletics and conference wanderings," we will never
VTHokie2000 • 06/09/22 04:09 PM ET
Lane was built with the east and west stands at the same height
Tailgate Guru • 06/13/22 11:13 AM ET
Like I said.....
2hhoop3 • 06/09/22 09:55 PM ET
I would think the reasons I picked TAMU would be obvious to you.
VTHokie2000 • 06/10/22 08:25 AM ET
All valid points.....
2hhoop3 • 06/10/22 09:03 AM ET
Given that both schools have similar, or the same, origin story ◄
VTHokie2000 • 06/11/22 10:34 AM ET
You need......
2hhoop3 • 06/11/22 11:59 AM ET
Now we're getting rumblings of USC to the B1G
HOO86 • 06/07/22 11:00 AM ET
i think that is a pretty idle threat
Vippie1 • 06/07/22 05:34 PM ET
It is just a hold on situation**
MrFantastic! • 06/07/22 02:56 PM ET
The Rose Bowl used to be appointment viewing before the BCS and CFP.
Maroon Baboon • 06/07/22 12:34 PM ET
I hope the Alliance insists that the Rose be in the first playoff round
Truthahn • 06/07/22 01:02 PM ET
if expansion happens no matter what, make the Rose Bowl the permanent site
reestuart • 06/07/22 01:07 PM ET
There is no reason for Rose to be permanent Championship site.**
Atlee Hokie • 06/14/22 10:28 AM ET
I have my doubts about that
Sunsetunderground • 06/07/22 12:32 PM ET
That would be very bad for the P12
EDGEMAN • 06/07/22 12:22 PM ET
"Teach them for being so greedy". Remember when we hoped that the ACC
133193Hokie • 06/07/22 08:23 AM ET
I knew that was a "pipe dream" from the start
EDGEMAN • 06/07/22 09:18 AM ET
Maybe if TX could have kept the Longhorn network while in the ACC
Truthahn • 06/07/22 10:18 AM ET
I agree with you re TX but aTm is just as bad, if not worse than TX
133193Hokie • 06/07/22 10:00 AM ET
yeah, I certainly don't favor aTm over Texas these days. I enjoy watching
reestuart • 06/07/22 01:34 PM ET
Even with all that money I think the SEC is going to regret it
Sunsetunderground • 06/07/22 09:15 AM ET
And how many schools in SEc are paying mega $$$ to coaches.
Atlee Hokie • 06/14/22 10:34 AM ET
Texas is the hot girl........
2hhoop3 • 06/07/22 09:29 PM ET
Guess what else is going to be causing issues? Scheduling.
Maroon Baboon • 06/07/22 10:25 AM ET
TX was THE giant of the Big12 - now they are amongst peers for the most
133193Hokie • 06/07/22 09:57 AM ET
The only way to ensure there is turmoil is to keep the playoff...
EDGEMAN • 06/07/22 08:19 AM ET
I'd rather have mix of top 4 teams, plus top champions
Truthahn • 06/07/22 11:45 AM ET
I don't trust voters when ranking teams
EDGEMAN • 06/08/22 12:42 PM ET
Then make it "top 4, then conf champs, max of two per conf, max one indy"
Truthahn • 06/09/22 10:07 AM ET
I think the SEC now realizes the playoff structure
Sunsetunderground • 06/07/22 09:04 AM ET
Remember its culture amd tx starts it
Mercury • 06/07/22 07:41 AM ET
Reality says............
MrFantastic! • 06/07/22 05:19 AM ET
Exactly
Truthahn • 06/07/22 12:09 PM ET
I thought that when the CFP-12 scheme fell through, that UT and OU might
Maroon Baboon • 06/07/22 03:50 PM ET
1932 southern conference
Mercury • 06/07/22 10:05 AM ET
They never should have invited Sewanee.**
Truthahn • 06/09/22 11:30 AM ET
Will they have more firings than they have now?
EDGEMAN • 06/07/22 06:07 AM ET
I've always loved the SEC culture. But their actions, along with ESPN
Maroon Baboon • 06/06/22 10:17 PM ET
I've always loved their culture on the surface, but they are rotten...
EDGEMAN • 06/07/22 08:21 AM ET
i'd have little interest in VT going to the SEC. ACC is easily the best
reestuart • 06/07/22 01:09 PM ET
Don't you have to have a certain academic research membership...
EDGEMAN • 06/08/22 04:49 PM ET
Used to. AAU membership was required.
Atlee Hokie • 06/14/22 10:46 AM ET
It is a big blow but.........
MrFantastic! • 06/07/22 05:21 AM ET
What happens 5 years from now makes zero difference to me.
Atlee Hokie • 06/14/22 10:50 AM ET
ESPN is already paying them a ton of cash...
EDGEMAN • 06/06/22 10:00 PM ET