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TerryD

ND supported them to keep the ACC together

The ESPN composition clause requirement of having at least fifteen schools in the conference at all times was the issue. FSU, Clemson and maybe North Carolina were making noise about leaving, potentially triggering the clause. ND wanted the ACC to stay together for its own reasons. The main one was protecting football independence. If ND didn't take care of its own interests, who would ? Every school looks towards taking care of its own interests first. So, the issue was how to keep the conference together ? Viola........Stanford, Cal and SMU. Tell me, what other three schools were willing to join the ACC and available at present ?? None, that is who. Jack Swarbrick graduated from Stanford Law School, so he has a soft spot for that school and wanted to help it. Cal and SMU were just along for the ride to make up the numbers. That, and they are elite academic schools that fit the profile. ND was instrumental in getting those three schools into the ACC. Big 12 guy is right, you should thank ND. Losing three schools without replacements would have threatened the ESPN contract and the ACC may have been toast.
Posted: 07/13/2025 at 08:05 PM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

Thread Replies (43)

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Should ACC & B12 exchange Cal, Stanford, & SMU for WVA, UCF, Cincy? (link)**
Hokester • 07/04/25 08:03 PM ET
I’m guessing Stanford, Cal, Notre Dame and Duke are joined at the hip
hokieZ71 • 07/05/25 07:16 PM ET
Perhaps Stanford and Cal could have gone independent.
Maroon Baboon • 07/06/25 01:01 AM ET
They made their decision.
hokieZ71 • 07/07/25 08:40 PM ET
Mutual decision. Big 12 didn't want them.
HouClone • 07/05/25 11:03 AM ET
One sinking ship to another.
VPI 1924 • 07/05/25 09:41 AM ET
ACC had a chance to get WVU, Cincy and UCF, and didn’t go after them.
Stech • 07/05/25 09:04 AM ET
were they interested in playing for free?
daveinop • 07/08/25 03:23 PM ET
The Twerps were....
2hhoop3 • 07/08/25 03:33 PM ET
I was thinking before the PAC meltdown, I think they would’ve have to pay
Stech • 07/08/25 03:33 PM ET
Cal, Stanford, and SMU bring new market
RandomAsianGuy • 07/05/25 07:20 PM ET
Bay Area is not a college sports market.
thebluelot • 07/07/25 02:15 PM ET
I think WVU numbers are on the decline
RandomAsianGuy • 07/07/25 02:40 PM ET
Some of your points are out of date
thebluelot • 07/07/25 03:22 PM ET
You are entitled to your opinion.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/07/25 06:47 PM ET
100%
thebluelot • 07/07/25 08:27 PM ET
Again you are entitled to your opinion.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/07/25 11:25 PM ET
Again. 100%
thebluelot • 07/11/25 11:17 PM ET
Oh sure sure. **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/12/25 12:01 AM ET
That statement is probably true, just not for the reasons you think. **
Big12 guy • 07/07/25 08:14 PM ET
As I said my opinion is clear.
RandomAsianGuy • 07/07/25 11:27 PM ET
Academics.
RJHokie • 07/05/25 09:15 AM ET
Thanks RJ, I’d love2 hear what others think too, 2 see what majority think**
Stech • 07/05/25 09:31 AM ET
Doubtful there will be a majority,.....
2hhoop3 • 07/05/25 10:59 AM ET
Cal and Stanford wouldn't do it **
HokiesACC2004 • 07/05/25 12:41 AM ET
Could’ve gotten them or @ least gone after them before CalFord & SMU joined
Stech • 07/05/25 09:07 AM ET
That's fine but you said exchange. Not happening. **
VaTechHokiesACC • 07/07/25 12:45 AM ET
Agree exchange is not happening, ND drove the additions & that’s who they
Stech • 07/07/25 07:26 AM ET
Maybe a different perspective. Remember that FSU and then
Big12 guy • 07/07/25 08:24 AM ET
Phillips thanked ND 4 their leadership n Expansion, Clemson & FSU 👎Expan-
Stech • 07/07/25 08:55 AM ET
Again, ND has a vested interest in the ACC staying together, with
Big12 guy • 07/07/25 09:11 AM ET
I never said, “ND wanted to add those schools to the detriment of the conf“
Stech • 07/07/25 11:20 AM ET
Your stance on ND is just wrong. I
Big12 guy • 07/07/25 11:26 AM ET
STOP!! You just want to argue, I know what I am talking about, drop your
Stech • 07/07/25 12:11 PM ET
Don't want to argue. I just see ND as one of the best
Big12 guy • 07/07/25 12:56 PM ET
There are obvious good things from having ND in the Conference, I am not a
Stech • 07/07/25 04:06 PM ET
ND supported them to keep the ACC together ◄
TerryD • 07/13/25 08:05 PM ET
Most of what you say is true, part about no other schools would join ACC is
Stech • 07/13/25 09:34 PM ET
Name them
TerryD • 07/14/25 07:15 AM ET
Not doing the name game with you because you will just argue, but there
Stech • 07/14/25 11:02 PM ET
"It’s all just a thought exercise." Here's what the article doesn't say.
Maroon Baboon • 07/04/25 11:20 PM ET
I thought Cal & Stanford didn't want to associate...
Old Line Hokie • 07/04/25 09:34 PM ET
Yes sir, also why they want no part of the new Pac 12
HokiesACC2004 • 07/05/25 12:42 AM ET
True. And the ACC already has two Florida schools. We don’t need UCF now. **
RandomAsianGuy • 07/05/25 07:09 PM ET