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Texas running the B12 with the LHN and not caring much about the conference

as a whole. You keep calling ND an Independent, they are not. They are member of the ACC for all other sports and they have 5-6 football games a year with the ACC. They go to ACC meetings, they use ACC refs, they lead expansion for Calford and SMU according to Jim Phillips. The similarity is that when you give preferential treatment to one school, it is the beginning of the end. Texas ended up bolting, and if for not for the PAC having Larry Scott to drive the bus in the ditch, B12 would have been a terrible position. Something I did not want, because I like the B12 schools. However, I think Notre Dame and their selfishness is going to put the ACC in a similar position, we will hanging on a thread when schools leave for the P2. It's okay we disagree on this, but the conference has been way more divided since ND joined the conference. Also, the B12 is wayyyy better off without Texas, so you may not see the similarities, but I think they are very similar and will probably end up with a similar result, which is not stronger even if they do survive.
Posted: 09/19/2025 at 02:57 PM ET
(In response to this post by Big12 guy)

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ACC eyeing 10 P4 games, but will it be 9+1 or 8+2, ND games r problem 4 9+1
Stech • 09/19/25 12:08 AM ET
This appears to be the answer
HOO86 • 09/22/25 05:24 PM ET
Did VT know this was coming?
The_VT_Rock • 09/23/25 08:15 AM ET
1. Does it bring more money? It better 2. 17th team?**
tcc_dc • 09/22/25 05:41 PM ET
ESPN Article
HOO86 • 09/22/25 06:05 PM ET
Honestly didn’t see this happening, cynical, but are teams leaving earlier
Stech • 09/22/25 08:04 PM ET
Somehow I missed this UVA v WVU series announced last year
HOO86 • 09/22/25 08:25 PM ET
I was surprised about UVA WVU game too, I wonder who voted for & against.
Stech • 09/22/25 09:17 PM ET
The amount power the ACC cedes to Clemson and FSU is sick.
Vippie1 • 09/21/25 11:15 AM ET
I can see why FSU,,
lord4bid • 09/21/25 01:03 PM ET
The whole Jim "Dame" Phillips schtick is
Pylons • 09/20/25 06:32 PM ET
Imbalanced model might be the answer.
RandomAsianGuy • 09/19/25 01:20 PM ET
I'm sure VT is one of them, because you can usually count on VT doing the-
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/22/25 10:10 AM ET
8+2,is where I see this landing because of the ND games, but if the SEC
Stech • 09/19/25 03:46 PM ET
The ACC is such hot garbage
HokieAl • 09/19/25 10:32 AM ET
The ACC is the Ottoman Empire c. 1910.
Maroon Baboon • 09/21/25 01:36 AM ET
It won't have to wait long. 3-4 years.**
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/22/25 10:11 AM ET
This quote from the article tells everyone all they need to know about the-
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/19/25 10:02 AM ET
Seems like it depends on which OOC games the additional conference game(s)
Femoyer Hokie • 09/21/25 02:15 PM ET
I agree with everything in your post, but those points demonstrate another-
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/22/25 10:09 AM ET
Makes sense
thebluelot • 09/20/25 05:00 PM ET
You mean Wake Forest, Boston College, and SMU are overpaid.**
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/21/25 01:38 PM ET
Yep**
thebluelot • 09/21/25 01:46 PM ET
Is ESPN paying more to other conferences for a 9th? I honestly don’t know
Stech • 09/19/25 01:15 PM ET
The SEC is getting more. But ESPN didn’t want to pay initially.
RandomAsianGuy • 09/20/25 01:31 PM ET
Yep, they are def. paying the SEC more. A good amount more.
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/19/25 02:56 PM ET
Then 8+2 seems like a slam dunk now, could go to 9 later. I think 10 P4 is
Stech • 09/20/25 07:40 AM ET
The problem with 9 conference games is that teams won't have as much
VTHokie2000 • 09/20/25 12:40 PM ET
It makes zero sense in the ACC to go to 9 conf. games.
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/19/25 09:48 AM ET
Why would ND care either way ?**
TerryD • 09/19/25 09:03 AM ET
ND doesn’t want to play more ACC games, the teams playing ND will want 8,
Stech • 09/19/25 09:17 AM ET
You still didn't explain why ND would care what the ACC does
TerryD • 09/19/25 01:05 PM ET
It’s a given that ND only cares about themselves, but they are part of the
Stech • 09/19/25 01:10 PM ET
Jeez given the ACC predicament
Vippie1 • 09/19/25 08:45 AM ET
Would be more entertaining, but it’d probably make it harder to get coaches
Stech • 09/19/25 09:01 AM ET
I get that is probably the conventional wisdom
Vippie1 • 09/19/25 02:49 PM ET
ACC teams aren't going to be making the CFP field anyway.
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/19/25 09:51 AM ET
Toledo would win this year. **
Big12 guy • 09/19/25 09:57 AM ET
Toledo is usually no slouch.**
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/19/25 10:03 AM ET
BTW, they have quite the offensive line
Big12 guy • 09/19/25 10:09 AM ET
Speaking of ND games...
EDGEMAN • 09/19/25 08:08 AM ET
Good idea, but Jim “Dame” Phillips serves ND 1st & the rest of the ACC 2nd.
Stech • 09/19/25 09:10 AM ET
Was thinking more of Clemson signing the series with ND
EDGEMAN • 09/19/25 09:15 AM ET
Agreed that should happen, & ND should have gone to 6 ACC games expansion
Stech • 09/19/25 09:20 AM ET
The problem is that if the ACC tried to play hard ball, ND would just-
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/19/25 09:55 AM ET
It’s more than that IMHO, ND will lead the way to merge ACC & Big East when
Stech • 09/19/25 01:31 PM ET
SMU President spoke about it.
HOO86 • 09/19/25 11:28 PM ET
Of course presidents reference it.
Pylons • 09/21/25 06:02 PM ET
When it comes to academic rankings, perception is everything. **
Big12 guy • 09/22/25 07:30 AM ET
There it is again, even the SEC is talking about it for why UNC & UVA are
Stech • 09/20/25 12:39 AM ET
If academics meant that much, Utah and Colorado wouldn't be in the Big 12.
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/19/25 03:03 PM ET
Utah and Colorado had no where else to go, B10 didn’t want Stanford & Cal,
Stech • 09/20/25 12:34 AM ET
I'm not sure what any of that has to do with me saying you're wrong about-
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/21/25 01:39 PM ET
This**
Big12 guy • 09/19/25 09:58 AM ET
Much like when Texas had their own Longhorn station in the B12. Thank you,
Stech • 09/19/25 01:21 PM ET
I really don't understand, comparing Texas's situation
Big12 guy • 09/19/25 02:03 PM ET
We agree to disagree, next subject maybe we agree.**
Stech • 09/19/25 02:36 PM ET
OK, but please explain what we are disagreeing on. Honestly,
Big12 guy • 09/19/25 02:41 PM ET
Texas running the B12 with the LHN and not caring much about the conference ◄
Stech • 09/19/25 02:57 PM ET
Well, then you are right, we disagree. You are
Big12 guy • 09/19/25 03:04 PM ET
Disappointment leads to anger
TerryD • 09/19/25 06:30 PM ET
I get it, you don't understand the significance of a presence of VT in DMV,
Stech • 09/19/25 03:41 PM ET
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TerryD • 09/20/25 09:07 AM ET