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I have worked for both private and public universities

again, obviously there are differences...that's certainly not up for debate. Are there presidents who are elitist and would use academics as some sort of tie-breaker? Sure. Has it happened? Not sure it has. Like FSU and Louisville to the ACC, if it makes good football/sports sense, it will happen, academics be damned. Because common sense. No, the B1G has not admitted anyone that's not AAU. I also believe they couldn't give 2 💩's that Nebraska now isn't AAU. They happen to be a conference that was already full of AAU members when sports became big and realignment became a thing and they were fortunate that logical candidates had the status. And I think it actually started as at least somewhat of an academic organization (Intercollegiate Conference of Faculty Representatives), so that makes a difference, sorta like the Ivy League didn't start as an athletics conference. Honestly, at this point I feel like the B1G has painted themselves in a corner with the academic argument. They went on for years about the majesty of the CIC, now the B1G Academic Alliance or whatever...which really is a nothingburger if you actually look at what it does (or more importantly doesn't do)...so now they'll feel/look hypocritical if they don't hold to the AAU standard. And my point really is that it's merely lip service. Even the snootiest president understands that conference membership isn't going to impact academics in any material way.
Posted: 09/12/2024 at 01:01 PM ET
(In response to this post by Stech)

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PAC12 will ride again...
LonghornHokie • 09/12/24 02:45 AM ET
Don't they need 8 to be a "conference"?
Victor Tango • 09/12/24 09:30 AM ET
To 6To get Auto-Bids to NCAA tournaments.
HOO86 • 09/12/24 05:34 PM ET
FWIW in order to qualify as a DI-FBS conference in football, a conference
VTHokie2000 • 09/12/24 08:10 PM ET
Ok. That's more than other sports.
HOO86 • 09/12/24 08:46 PM ET
It looks like they will take some time to try to get even better.
Truthahn • 09/12/24 03:15 PM ET
The conference is in the first of a two-year grace period afforded by NCAA**
pburg_hokie • 09/12/24 09:45 AM ET
Yes, need 2 more, Cal & Stanford don’t make much money 4,7 yrs in the ACC.
Stech • 09/12/24 09:44 AM ET
Cal & Stanford could have put that together rather than leave
HOO86 • 09/12/24 05:42 PM ET
Cal and Stanford?**
EDGEMAN • 09/12/24 09:38 AM ET
Cal's latest billboard looks like they are happy in the ACC.
HOO86 • 09/13/24 09:22 AM ET
It would be awesome if the ACC could jettison that dead weight-
Baltimore_Hokie • 09/12/24 10:06 AM ET
They're only getting 30% of a share for 7 years.
Pylons • 09/12/24 10:58 AM ET
Exactly **
Stech • 09/12/24 12:42 PM ET
Sounds good to me**
pburg_hokie • 09/12/24 09:45 AM ET
Re-brand to 6-PAC(k), Bud or Modelo Primary Sponsor..done deal:-)**
VT757to276 • 09/12/24 09:25 AM ET
add 2 more State U and rename PAC-12 to United States Conference**
Windows NT • 09/12/24 09:01 AM ET
I nominate New Mexico St. and Texas St.**
Pylons • 09/12/24 09:48 AM ET
Florida State should apply**
Windows NT • 09/12/24 10:13 AM ET
Maybe Notre Dame State too! They're struggling as well. 😂😂😂**
Pylons • 09/12/24 10:16 AM ET
they should add Sandford and Cal . great fits. **
VT Pez4Life • 09/12/24 08:43 AM ET
The ACC Grant of Rights may have something to say about that**
CobbCountyHokie • 09/12/24 03:07 PM ET
Actually they're absolutely terrible fits in every way except geography.**
neworleanshoo • 09/12/24 01:58 PM ET
Hopefully once the lawsuits end**
Colonel Jessup • 09/12/24 08:55 AM ET
That’s already circulating, Stanford & Cal go back, UCONN & USF join ACC,
Stech • 09/12/24 08:55 AM ET
Would Stan and Cal really leave a Power conference? ....
hokietony • 09/12/24 12:34 PM ET
Not saying it’s going to happen, but they won’t make 💵 in the ACC 4 7 yrs.**
Stech • 09/12/24 12:40 PM ET
We add UConn...time to shut it down...**
tcc_dc • 09/12/24 10:22 AM ET
Basketball not good enough for you 🤣, seriously why do you say that?**
Stech • 09/12/24 12:23 PM ET
No to UCONN, yes to UCF (see what I did there)
EDGEMAN • 09/12/24 09:39 AM ET
USF is an AAU member and that fact gets a lot of run in the Tampa Bay area**
CobbCountyHokie • 09/12/24 03:08 PM ET
Look at how University Presidents think, they vote for expansion.
Stech • 09/12/24 09:51 AM ET
They also know that athletic conference membership doesn't matter
Pylons • 09/12/24 10:22 AM ET
Did know you would say that 🤣, it’s different depending on the conference
Stech • 09/12/24 11:48 AM ET
Sure, it's talked about more by conferences with better schools
Pylons • 09/12/24 11:58 AM ET
Agreed, but some of these Presidents that vote don’t feel the same. Tech’s
Stech • 09/12/24 12:13 PM ET
Why in the world would land grant have anything to do with this?
Pylons • 09/12/24 12:22 PM ET
I’m not saying it should, but I have dealt with both cultures, and they
Stech • 09/12/24 12:38 PM ET
What I find most interesting about the Big Ten's "academic argument" is
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 12:01 AM ET
ND recently got AAU status. **
Big12 guy • 09/13/24 09:23 AM ET
Yes, I noted it in my post (see the very last sentence).**
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 09:44 AM ET
I too was surprised the B1G didn’t take Stanford and Cal, Expansion never
Stech • 09/13/24 08:44 AM ET
Given that NoCal and SoCal are completely different worlds, it would have
VTHokie2000 • 09/13/24 09:00 AM ET
Guessing they didn’t have th Presidents votes to take both & they
Stech • 09/13/24 09:54 AM ET
I have worked for both private and public universities ◄
Pylons • 09/12/24 01:01 PM ET
I’m going to shock you…
Stech • 09/12/24 01:34 PM ET
Good for them. Unfortunately they don't have many options
HokieAl • 09/12/24 08:38 AM ET
Looking at the media contracts, they have as much chance of
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 08:46 AM ET
All the top G5 brands are taken. Which means PAC should be strategic
HokieAl • 09/12/24 09:19 AM ET
The 4 they are getting from the Mountain west were "taken" as
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 11:49 AM ET
I think you misunderstand
HokieAl • 09/12/24 12:07 PM ET
I did misunderstand. As far as the PAC attracting any AAC school,
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 12:14 PM ET
Yes it does. It absolutely makes sense If they want to position
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 09:26 AM ET
If those 4 do indeed announce, then there will easily be a couple that
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 07:05 AM ET
UNLV, Nevada, New Mexico...**
mancunian • 09/12/24 08:41 AM ET
USF, Tulane, Memphis, and any other G5 school that wants to set themselves
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 08:50 AM ET
I was thinking "who else?" in the MWC
mancunian • 09/12/24 09:07 AM ET
I think that is the core group
obguthr • 09/12/24 07:15 AM ET
Why don't you think it will work? You have two "power conference" schools,
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 07:30 AM ET
For the AAC it's a lateral move
obguthr • 09/12/24 07:48 AM ET
On Greg Flugaur's live show yesterday...
33laszlo99 • 09/12/24 11:37 AM ET
It would be virtually impossible to build a power conference out of G5
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 07:56 AM ET
Isn’t that what the B12 when Texas & OU left? The 4 Corners came later, but
Stech • 09/12/24 08:49 AM ET
They grabbed the best available, for sure. Any G5 school is available
Big12 guy • 09/12/24 08:51 AM ET
Just remember Cal & Stanford don’t make much money in the ACC for 7 years.**
Stech • 09/12/24 09:52 AM ET
They are probably losing money with the ACC travel expenses.**
RJHokie • 09/12/24 09:55 AM ET
The Corona 6 Pac Conference
Millpoint • 09/12/24 06:09 AM ET
Pacifico 6 Pac **
Vippie1 • 09/13/24 09:45 AM ET
Even better!**
Millpoint • 09/13/24 02:42 PM ET
Texas State to continue the schtick.**
obguthr • 09/12/24 06:17 AM ET
They might as well also get Arkansas State and Utah State
HokieAl • 09/12/24 09:21 AM ET
The 6-PAC**
Tuckahokie • 09/12/24 06:09 AM ET