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Some thoughts in response:

1) Regarding Notre Dame - Notre Dame isn't and never has been a member of the conference for football. They are only affiliated with the ACC insofar as they can exploit it while offering little to nothing in return. Accordingly, they would not be scheduled as a conference opponent in this thing we've made up for fun. Also, in a real world context, my inclination is that the "why marry the cow when you get the milk for free" relationship between Notre Dame and the ACC is not going to be a thing in ~5 years or so - unless you're living in the Land of Make-Believe, it's pretty obvious that the ACC is going to take a major hit sometime before 2030, there will no longer be any ACC-football scheduling value for ND to exploit, and I imagine Notre Dame will want to park its basketball and olympic sports elsewhere, likely the Big East, where they can play other Catholic schools in major metros. 2) Regarding home vs. away scheduling being on a two year cycle - Don't care. Boo hoo, if you don't win games and either stay in the best tier or move up, you never get to play the highest value teams at home. That's just the way it has to be in our little thing we've made up for fun. The entire idea behind this is not to please an athletic director, or make sure programs get good home schedules, it's to create compelling football content for media partners to sell to casual viewers. You want a better home schedule next year? Then beat the crappy teams on your schedule this year. The teams that win games get the highest profile teams on their schedule home and away, the teams that lose games don't - you play slop, because you are slop. Is it entirely, 100% fair? No, not really. But neither is the current setup. Win and prosper, lose and suffer. Keep moving forward and reap the benefits, stagnate and get nowhere, or lose and face the consequences. Those are the stakes, that's what makes it compelling. 3) Regarding rivalries - see 2 above. You want to play your rival, but you're in a different tier? Sorry, princess, you're going to have to win your way up and EARN the right. There's no crying about anything in this league. Yes, it's brutal, but everyone also has some attainable goal to play for and work towards. Right now, there are plenty of ACC teams that begin every season with zero chance to accomplish anything at all whatsoever, and, accordingly, nobody cares about or watches them. It's also a TV-first league, so I don't want to hear AD's crying about selling tickets. This isn't D3 or FCS. If you can manage to create TV hype, in-person attendance will always follow. At this level, the TV hype has to come first. Yes, this all sounds revolutionary and iconoclastic, but it is. This is also little more than a thought exercise, because it will never happen. I can tell you one thing - doing things the same way they've been done for 50+ years sure isn't working for the ACC or the Big 12 - they've been pantsed in entirely embarrassing fashion by the SEC and Big 10, and treated like dog crap by their media partners.
Posted: 07/30/2025 at 11:22 AM ET
(In response to this post by VTHokie2000)

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So, the domino for all this new realignment talk is UNCheat's rumored,
Maroon Unit 07/29/25 03:59 AM ET
They have the same financial scenario all ACC teams have with the new
ancient alien 2018 07/31/25 04:46 PM ET
THe only way for insecurity in this business is money
1947Sunbowl 07/30/25 03:14 PM ET
Nothing in the ACC is a domino
HokieAl 07/29/25 10:30 PM ET
Could see SEC taking UNC & NCSU w/ State Board of Trustees, cable hookups
Stech 07/29/25 11:23 AM ET
Nope. Clemson football and UNC mean the most to the ACC.
hokieZ71 07/29/25 01:16 PM ET
Agree, good schools, but don’t underrate the power of the NC state school’s
Stech 07/29/25 09:32 PM ET
As for UF and USC-E, don't forget that aTm thought the same thing...
EDGEMAN 07/30/25 08:09 AM ET
True, but *North Carolina State Schools board of trustees, doesn’t exist
Stech 07/30/25 10:51 AM ET
I don’t buy the NC deal.
hokieZ71 07/30/25 06:11 PM ET
Which is why UNC is going NOWHERE until 2030 when major changes are
ancient alien 2018 07/31/25 04:49 PM ET
Could be right, but don’t underestimate NC State Schools Board of Governors
Stech 07/31/25 08:05 AM ET
I live in North Carolina.
hokieZ71 07/31/25 08:44 AM ET
You might be right, but no one really knows how this will play out. Podcast
Stech 07/31/25 09:31 AM ET
No, they haven’t all had tag alongs.
hokieZ71 07/31/25 10:58 AM ET
I agree not all, but I never said all, I said the most recent, and I stick
Stech 07/31/25 11:11 AM ET
Voting to add Texas and voting to add FSU or Clemson are two vastly-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 10:21 AM ET
It's important to note that, in all this recent UNC-2-SEC coverage-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/29/25 09:50 AM ET
2 things that I look for in realignment "rumors"
Maroon Baboon 07/29/25 11:21 AM ET
Both good points. Some thoughts in response-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/29/25 11:43 AM ET
Agree. In terms of #1, I am not saying the UNC can't split from NC State.
Maroon Baboon 07/29/25 02:32 PM ET
Everything else happening in college football right now resembles the-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/29/25 02:43 PM ET
Promotion/relegation has never been tried in the US, you’re right.
mancunian 07/30/25 12:59 PM ET
While relegation/promotion has never been tried in the US, college
Maroon Baboon 07/29/25 09:37 PM ET
In its current form, I disagree college football is ripe to try
Tombo 07/30/25 05:30 PM ET
That's a completely inaccurate statement.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 05:48 PM ET
I can tell you straight out I don't watch a league in another country
Tombo 07/31/25 08:38 PM ET
They're never going to fix the transfer rule.
Baltimore_Hokie 08/01/25 09:42 AM ET
Agree. But that is the case for any system. And the transfer portal and
Maroon Baboon 07/30/25 05:38 PM ET
Agree with you on all counts here.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 09:51 AM ET
Here are two ideas of how to organize the relegation and promotion
Maroon Baboon 07/30/25 12:00 PM ET
This makes too much sense and would be too awesome.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 12:19 PM ET
A Wild take on the ACC contract clause re "dissolution"
VTCALS72 07/30/25 09:47 AM ET
ACC-Big12 MERGER for Relegation and Promotion
Maroon Baboon 07/30/25 04:23 PM ET
I don't think it would work with only 24 teams.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 10:15 AM ET
What if the promotion/relegation is done every 2 years? A factor that
VTHokie2000 07/30/25 10:58 AM ET
Some thoughts in response:
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 11:22 AM ET
Totally agree about #2. All teams in a tier should be viewed as equals.
Maroon Baboon 07/30/25 04:05 PM ET
The more we talk about this, the cooler it sounds, and the more-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 04:38 PM ET
I'm convinced that one of two extremes is best for college football.
Maroon Baboon 07/30/25 05:12 PM ET
PREACH BROTHER! Agree 100% on everything in this post.**
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 05:17 PM ET
I've got more 😭
Maroon Baboon 07/30/25 05:30 PM ET
Anything that creates immediate stakes and drama would be great for the-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 05:41 PM ET
So true. And what is so awful about the current system is that the "drama"
Maroon Baboon 07/30/25 06:02 PM ET
There is no salary cap in the Premier League?
HouClone 07/30/25 09:35 PM ET
I don't think there is. They have a similar issue with their league that we
Maroon Baboon 07/30/25 10:00 PM ET
FWIW EPL doesn't have a salary cap per se. Although there is a proposal
VTHokie2000 07/31/25 02:49 AM ET
The reason I asked about Notre Dame has nothing to do with the conference
VTHokie2000 07/30/25 11:30 AM ET
I suppose then ND would just be an OOC opponent that landed on members'-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 11:39 AM ET
So all ACC teams would still get to play Notre Dame regardless of what tier
VTHokie2000 07/30/25 11:55 AM ET
It's my inclination that the ACC is going to continue doing exactly what-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 12:06 PM ET
I agree with you that the ACC will likely maintain the status quo until
VTHokie2000 07/30/25 05:16 PM ET
I have posted the notion several times that the current P2 media deals will
Maroon Unit 07/29/25 12:29 PM ET
I always thought the conference network carriage fees was a scam and not
Maroon Baboon 07/29/25 02:20 PM ET
When will players have sponsor patches on their uniforms?**
EDGEMAN 07/30/25 08:11 AM ET
There were no rumors about Texas and Oklahoma going to
Big12 guy 07/29/25 10:47 AM ET
Any ACC school, including Wake Forest or Boston College, would have a-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/29/25 11:15 AM ET
Ya, i think that goes for any school not in the P2. So, the question then
Big12 guy 07/29/25 11:24 AM ET
UNC would be valuable. At the risk of sounding like a homer-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/29/25 12:17 PM ET
As an outsider looking in, and having lived in the neighborhood
Big12 guy 07/29/25 12:50 PM ET
A&M and FSU to the B1G would be a boss move.**
Maroon Baboon 07/29/25 11:23 PM ET
I will add to our discourse here something that nobody on here seems-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/29/25 02:31 PM ET
Clemson is 73-44 against the Cocks. And I would rank CU as a near-blueblood
Maroon Baboon 07/29/25 11:37 PM ET
"Clemson is a near blue blood" is an absolutely volcanic take, friend.
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 09:43 AM ET
Well this isn’t true. Clemson has dominated USCe series….
CrystalCoveHokie 07/29/25 06:52 PM ET
Lots of Clemson grovelers coming out of the woodwork. I must have hit a-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 10:05 AM ET
How many teams have more than 3 nattys since 1980?**
CrystalCoveHokie 07/30/25 11:22 AM ET
I've made entirely clear that my point is not to invalidate their recent-
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 11:32 AM ET
Since 1980 = 45 years, not a flash in the pan. **
CrystalCoveHokie 07/30/25 11:56 AM ET
What about the 20 or so years that they were completely mid or trash?
Baltimore_Hokie 07/30/25 12:07 PM ET
I agree, the issue is really not arguable **
CrystalCoveHokie 07/30/25 12:16 PM ET
Don’t confuse UNC being the first domino with UNC being the catalyst.
hokieZ71 07/29/25 06:46 AM ET
They would do that but I think the P2 sees UNC as just behind
VTCALS72 07/29/25 06:29 AM ET