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All of the schools, except for the richest, will have

difficulties negotiating the "settlement". Athletes being paid, runaway NIL, and the uneven media contracts will pose challenges to any program, including to those on the lower end in the P2. Expecting media money to solve those issues is nuts. Look at what the ACC, and even the B12 schools revenue. They ae bringing in up too $40M+ per year in conference distributions, yet they are struggling financially? If you look at the athletic budgets, not the media money, you will find your answers. OSU, Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, and many other "blue bloods" had budgets of around $200M+++ BEFORE the recent round of realignment. Texas, Oklahoma, and USC were the big boys that left their conferences for greener money pastures. The rest that fell in line were either in the right place at the right time, or took decreased amounts to be included in the "club". I'm not sure the media amounts will continue to rise, but live content is at a premium. Presently, those that are not getting the huge NIL money, will not be able to compete for a NC in the short run, but I think this development is fleeting. It's not the payment of players that will kill college athletics, as there is no doubt there will be caps instituted, and educational requirements will be brought back into line. (Congress will get involved) it is the "free market" NIL deals that will have to be brought under control, or eliminated altogether. We know where the courts come down on this, but they can be trumped by legislation. If pay for play goes to the highest bidder, which is what is playing out, it won't even matter, as a workable collegiate business model will be gone, and we will have a pro league. If that is the case, it is my hope that my school, and those others in the B12 will not participate, and get back to the job of educating our kids, and using athletics to prepare them for a better, more rounded future. It is my contention that what we have now will not be what we have in 2030 when the next round of negotiations happen. I have no issue with Texas and any other school making more money than my school. I do however, have a problem with that money giving such an acute unfair competitive advantage. Everyone, including FSU and Clemson, need to take a deep breath, and let this play out.
Posted: 05/17/2025 at 08:29 AM ET
(In response to this post by SMU Pony)

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Hypothetical - Who would be the ACCs 4th Pro-Rata?
Sunsetunderground 05/15/25 02:21 PM ET
Utah**
RandomAsianGuy 05/16/25 12:29 PM ET
Hard to believe any B12 is leaving until 2031, but announcements will be
Stech 05/16/25 01:43 PM ET
Is the ACC getting a new contract in 2031? The B12 is. **
Big12 guy 05/16/25 02:59 PM ET
The ACC will be losing teams by 2030. So the ACC will likely get a new deal
hokieZ71 05/17/25 06:01 PM ET
The ACC exit fees are significantly less in 2031, it wouldn’t surprise me
Stech 05/16/25 03:03 PM ET
THAT would keep your conference whole. By not getting
Big12 guy 05/16/25 03:10 PM ET
What if ESPN/Fox don't renew the Big 12 in 2031?**
SMU Pony 05/16/25 08:01 PM ET
Could happen I suppose, as I'm not the one writing the checks. Except
Big12 guy 05/16/25 09:16 PM ET
Hmmmmm
SMU Pony 05/16/25 09:32 PM ET
All of the schools, except for the richest, will have
Big12 guy 05/17/25 08:29 AM ET
The most interesting thing I am curious to see is the impact the settlement
VTHokie2000 05/17/25 03:20 PM ET
I think ESPN has already agreed to renew with the ACC, that’s how the drop
Stech 05/16/25 03:55 PM ET
Memphis, states going from non-ACCN markets to ACCN markets is optimal...
BROman Hokie 05/16/25 11:54 AM ET
Aren’t Carriage Fees mainly based on Cable, that’s shrinking by the second?
Stech 05/16/25 03:12 PM ET
I'd be asking ESPN if there are "carriage" fees for the ACCN
Big12 guy 05/16/25 03:18 PM ET
Subscribers are paying them whether they use cable or streaming options
EDGEMAN 05/17/25 09:39 AM ET
Subscribers are paying, that is accurate. Is ESPN obligated
Big12 guy 05/17/25 09:49 AM ET
I have a history with Toledo, and this is the first I've heard of
Big12 guy 05/16/25 12:52 PM ET
An Ohio school would be on my radar and a good add for TV $ IMO...
BROman Hokie 05/16/25 01:42 PM ET
Sure, when Cincinnati was available, but the ACC didn't act.
HOO86 05/16/25 09:57 PM ET
Let’s grab San Diego State**
CrystalCoveHokie 05/16/25 11:46 AM ET
If I were just going to take two, USF and SDST since we are national, but
Stech 05/16/25 01:46 PM ET
not with its investmetn in football**
1947Sunbowl 05/16/25 12:09 AM ET
I would not complain about South Florida, especially if we know FSU is out.
Truthahn 05/15/25 03:34 PM ET
South Florida is a good choice.
HOO86 05/15/25 06:15 PM ET
I agree, n fact I would get them now, so it’s proactive instead of reactive
Stech 05/15/25 06:27 PM ET
I agree. No need to wait.
HOO86 05/15/25 08:21 PM ET
If FSU is leaving, then it is very likely that Miami is leaving too.
VTHokie2000 05/15/25 05:12 PM ET
Looks like the old Big East. UConn and Temple should be added with USF. **
HouClone 05/16/25 01:16 PM ET
I would be happy with UCONN, Temple, and USF
OrlandoHokie 05/16/25 04:59 PM ET
UConn and Temple add no value to the ACC's football brand and that is a
VTHokie2000 05/16/25 05:03 PM ET
Temple has shown good football at times over the last decade or so.
HOO86 05/16/25 09:40 PM ET
Even if Temple is able to sustain success in football, will the national
VTHokie2000 05/16/25 10:43 PM ET
Coming out of a media market like Philadelphia yes.
HOO86 05/16/25 10:54 PM ET
There are 3 flaws with comparing Temple football to Clemson football.
VTHokie2000 05/17/25 03:09 PM ET
Exactly because the ACC is probably on borrowed time until it is demoted to
VTHokie2000 05/16/25 04:57 PM ET
Where they going?**
MrFantastic! 05/16/25 06:01 AM ET
If I had to take a guess, then either the Big Ten or Big XII.**
VTHokie2000 05/16/25 04:57 PM ET
You guys can have FSU, we just got rid of Texas, and we like things now. **
Big12 guy 05/16/25 06:05 PM ET
Enough Big XII schools may support the move if it meant creating
VTHokie2000 05/16/25 06:35 PM ET
Na, honestly, there are schools that make sense for the
Big12 guy 05/16/25 07:46 PM ET
The P2 is going to have more power regardless whether the ACC stays in tact
VTHokie2000 05/16/25 10:46 PM ET
Probably but having two voting member conferences is better than one
HouClone 05/21/25 02:45 PM ET
You are right, but it may still be borrowed time. It all depends on how
VTHokie2000 05/21/25 03:05 PM ET
B12?**
EDGEMAN 05/16/25 08:47 AM ET
If FSU goes South Florida, large school, AAU school, new stadium plus Bucs
Stech 05/15/25 04:14 PM ET
No one because there really isn't a G5 or DI-FCS team out there who would
VTHokie2000 05/15/25 02:53 PM ET
Exactly. If ACC added the teams mentioned here, the battle is lost.**
marcbvtgm 05/16/25 02:55 PM ET
It would have to be a current G5, so who cares?**
Baltimore_Hokie 05/15/25 02:30 PM ET
If VT could get another $10m a year in tv money wouldn't you ?**
Sunsetunderground 05/15/25 05:09 PM ET
Not if it means playing in a third tier conference.
Baltimore_Hokie 05/16/25 09:40 AM ET
Not to mention by the time 2030s come around, Cal, Stanford, and SMU
HouClone 05/16/25 01:28 PM ET
Exactly. Frankly, there's no saving the ACC. The die has been cast.
Baltimore_Hokie 05/16/25 03:31 PM ET