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I agree. I reject "Academics" and "Home" as reasons for staying in the ACC.
I'd always have felt we'd be more "at home" in the SEC. But I am in the minority I guess. Our entry to the ACC has impacted our ability to leave. That is all.
WRT the ever changing nature of "realignment", I agree with you again. I think most of felt that if the ACC imploded that we'd "have a landing spot" in the SEC or a stout Big XII that included Oklahoma and Texas. That's changed now. I've said on numerous posts earlier that the only LOCK in the ACC for a nice landing spot is UNC. UVa is like a poor man's Stanford, and look where Stanford is right now. Tech is kinda like a poor man's Oregon. And look where Oregon is right now. Clemson and FSU are not locks to be taken by the SEC either. The SEC already has a boatload of those types of schools, and they really don't NEED two more. Now I don't want to be all doom and gloom. Do I think a good many ACC teams will have a good chance at making the P2? Yes. But no one (save UNC) should be resting in it. And the whole thing will be based on the whims of the SEC and B1G brass. Merit won't guarantee a thing.
Lastly, the UT/OU to SEC move was a game changer that was far worse IMO for college football than some of this other stuff like NIL, transfer portals, and CFP playoff expansion that we are talking about currently. A unilateral decision by the SEC followed by a unilateral decision by the B1G basically dropped 18 proud programs to second tier status without a single game on the field having anything to say about it. UCLA hasn't won the Pac-10/12 this century. In that same time period, the teams most discussed as being the first left behind by the B1G (UW, UO, Stanford) have won or shared the title 14 times. That, is a problem. Even retched Cal (who the talking heads should drop football or join join the MWC), has had a share of the title once in that time period.
** Edited by Maroon Baboon at 7/28/2022, 11:38:17 PM
Thread Replies (42)
Like it! Note that Tennessee is not part of Deep South
-- tk225
Jul 30, 2022 at 09:17 PM ET
tk225
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07/30/22 09:17 PM ET
Are you kidding me? .....It makes too much sense to happen.**
-- DeputyD
Jul 29, 2022 at 09:21 AM ET
DeputyD
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07/29/22 09:21 AM ET
I actually do feel the B1G, SEC, ESPN, and Fox are gonna make things happen
-- BBBDatVT
Jul 29, 2022 at 10:23 AM ET
BBBDatVT
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07/29/22 10:23 AM ET
They don't see anything past "more money now"! They are all arrogant enough
-- wwhokie1
Jul 29, 2022 at 03:06 PM ET
wwhokie1
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07/29/22 03:06 PM ET
I don’t know about all this realignment business, but your SEC East
-- GoJosieBen
Jul 28, 2022 at 09:49 PM ET
GoJosieBen
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07/28/22 09:49 PM ET
Interesting. Arizona State should be in that group....
-- Old Line Hokie
Jul 28, 2022 at 07:16 PM ET
Old Line Hokie
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07/28/22 07:16 PM ET
i think the drawing board comes out and B1G, SEC, ESPN, and Fox go to work.
-- BBBDatVT
Jul 29, 2022 at 10:29 AM ET
BBBDatVT
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07/29/22 10:29 AM ET
Vegas is a nice market to get into. Louisville is a corrupt commuter colleg
-- BBBDatVT
Jul 29, 2022 at 10:33 AM ET
BBBDatVT
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07/29/22 10:33 AM ET
The ideal for college football is relegation and promotion system
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 05:48 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/28/22 05:48 PM ET
Can't happen when 25% of the roster turns over every year, much of it
-- 133743Hokie
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:26 PM ET
133743Hokie
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07/28/22 06:26 PM ET
Teams that reload, succeed. Those that are a flash in the pan, don't.**
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:32 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/28/22 06:32 PM ET
How do you know they've reloaded before the next season starts. Relegation
-- 133743Hokie
Jul 28, 2022 at 08:08 PM ET
133743Hokie
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07/28/22 08:08 PM ET
You don't know until they play. Those at the bottom are relegated for the
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 10:30 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/28/22 10:30 PM ET
So, we're back to Ground Zero. Only a handful of teams compete.
-- BBBDatVT
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:36 PM ET
BBBDatVT
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07/28/22 06:36 PM ET
What makes you think VT is entitled to be in the Top Tier every year?
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:42 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/28/22 06:42 PM ET
Well, the EPL is almost cast system. Promotion does very little to change
-- BNOMO
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:52 PM ET
BNOMO
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07/28/22 06:52 PM ET
Fair points. But IMO, R-P gives longstanding teams the chance to compete
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 07:22 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/28/22 07:22 PM ET
The problem with using Leicester City as the example is the Foxes are
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 28, 2022 at 10:10 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/28/22 10:10 PM ET
There would need to be rules on transfers.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 29, 2022 at 02:50 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/29/22 02:50 AM ET
It is probably too late to try to implement rules now that the horse has
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 29, 2022 at 09:33 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/29/22 09:33 PM ET
VT is certainly a top 40 producer. That's why.
-- BBBDatVT
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:45 PM ET
BBBDatVT
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07/28/22 06:45 PM ET
The Top Tier of a R-P system wouldn't be 40 teams. Much less.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:59 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/28/22 06:59 PM ET
Yep. You're hardly dealing with the same teams from year to year in college**
-- BBBDatVT
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:29 PM ET
BBBDatVT
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07/28/22 06:29 PM ET
There's a ton of turnover on a professional roster over a four year span.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:34 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/28/22 06:34 PM ET
Not 100% though. Its undoable due to the nature and makeup of college trams
-- 133743Hokie
Jul 28, 2022 at 08:15 PM ET
133743Hokie
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07/28/22 08:15 PM ET
So Cincy would be up for one year, then down the next. No big deal.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 10:57 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/28/22 10:57 PM ET
So Cincy moves up after playing in the playoffs. So now they field a
-- 133743Hokie
Jul 29, 2022 at 08:43 AM ET
133743Hokie
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07/29/22 08:43 AM ET
So Cincinnati will have no one returning?
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 29, 2022 at 09:14 AM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/29/22 09:14 AM ET
not as much as College fball and bball. They're unique in that way. **
-- BBBDatVT
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:43 PM ET
BBBDatVT
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07/28/22 06:43 PM ET
That ain't happening in bigtime American sports. Even MLS hasn't adopted it**
-- BBBDatVT
Jul 28, 2022 at 05:51 PM ET
BBBDatVT
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07/28/22 05:51 PM ET
Neither is your graphic. But since you brought up the MLS
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:01 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/28/22 06:01 PM ET
The number of clubs is not the reason MLS doesn't participate in promotion/
-- VTHokie2000
Jul 28, 2022 at 10:18 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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07/28/22 10:18 PM ET
MLS actually has a two tiered set of developmental leagues
-- Marooned
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:30 PM ET
Marooned
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07/28/22 06:30 PM ET
If it evolves into a legit R-P system, that would be great.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 07:03 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/28/22 07:03 PM ET
I think there's a very good chance something similar to my graphic works.
-- BBBDatVT
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:24 PM ET
BBBDatVT
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07/28/22 06:24 PM ET
I never said R-P would be adopted. But if the SEC is REALLY about
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:31 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/28/22 06:31 PM ET
If it hasn't happened already, the B1G and SEC are gonna work together.
-- BBBDatVT
Jul 28, 2022 at 06:42 PM ET
BBBDatVT
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07/28/22 06:42 PM ET
You think way too highly of SEC and B1G leadership.
-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 07:07 PM ET
Maroon Baboon
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07/28/22 07:07 PM ET
They gotta keep college sports relevant in major parts of the country.
-- BBBDatVT
Jul 29, 2022 at 02:31 AM ET
BBBDatVT
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07/29/22 02:31 AM ET
I have followed conference realignment since the Metro days in the 70's..
-- DrHokie
Jul 28, 2022 at 09:44 PM ET
DrHokie
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07/28/22 09:44 PM ET
I agree. I reject "Academics" and "Home" as reasons for staying in the ACC.
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-- Maroon Baboon
Jul 28, 2022 at 11:33 PM ET
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07/28/22 11:33 PM ET