If academics meant that much, Utah and Colorado wouldn't be in the Big 12.
Stanford and Cal would be in the Big 10. And, Louisville and SMU wouldn't be in the ACC.
I also still fail to understand your logic on the Big East. I don't see how there's any way the Big East factors into conference realignment at all, unless ND needs somewhere to park its basketball and non-revs. Basketball just has no value from a media rights standpoint. There's no money there to be had. 95+% of the value of college basketball is tied up in the NCAAT, which is "owned" by the NCAA and paid for by CBS and Turner. Regular season college basketball games on TV are worth next to nothing, maybe even less than nothing, outside the immediate context of UNC, Duke, Kansas, and Kentucky, and even those games don't really move the needle all that much outside the Duke vs. UNC games. Take all that into account, then combine it with the fact that UConn is the only Big East member with an FBS football program, and also that UConn football is terrible and nobody cares about it, and the Big East just isn't a factor.
If you could explain to me like I'm five why you think the Big East is a factor at all in any of this, I'd love to be able to understand.
** Edited by Baltimore_Hokie at 9/19/2025, 3:03:50 PM
Thread Replies (62)
ACC eyeing 10 P4 games, but will it be 9+1 or 8+2, ND games r problem 4 9+1
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 12:08 AM ET
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09/19/25 12:08 AM ET
Did VT know this was coming?
-- The_VT_Rock
Sep 23, 2025 at 08:15 AM ET
The_VT_Rock
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09/23/25 08:15 AM ET
1. Does it bring more money? It better 2. 17th team?**
-- tcc_dc
Sep 22, 2025 at 05:41 PM ET
tcc_dc
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09/22/25 05:41 PM ET
Honestly didn’t see this happening, cynical, but are teams leaving earlier
-- Stech
Sep 22, 2025 at 08:04 PM ET
Stech
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09/22/25 08:04 PM ET
Somehow I missed this UVA v WVU series announced last year
-- HOO86
Sep 22, 2025 at 08:25 PM ET
HOO86
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09/22/25 08:25 PM ET
I was surprised about UVA WVU game too, I wonder who voted for & against.
-- Stech
Sep 22, 2025 at 09:17 PM ET
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09/22/25 09:17 PM ET
The amount power the ACC cedes to Clemson and FSU is sick.
-- Vippie1
Sep 21, 2025 at 11:15 AM ET
Vippie1
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09/21/25 11:15 AM ET
The whole Jim "Dame" Phillips schtick is
-- Pylons
Sep 20, 2025 at 06:32 PM ET
Pylons
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09/20/25 06:32 PM ET
Imbalanced model might be the answer.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Sep 19, 2025 at 01:20 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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09/19/25 01:20 PM ET
I'm sure VT is one of them, because you can usually count on VT doing the-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 22, 2025 at 10:10 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/22/25 10:10 AM ET
8+2,is where I see this landing because of the ND games, but if the SEC
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 03:46 PM ET
Stech
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09/19/25 03:46 PM ET
The ACC is the Ottoman Empire c. 1910.
-- Maroon Baboon
Sep 21, 2025 at 01:36 AM ET
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09/21/25 01:36 AM ET
It won't have to wait long. 3-4 years.**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 22, 2025 at 10:11 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/22/25 10:11 AM ET
This quote from the article tells everyone all they need to know about the-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 19, 2025 at 10:02 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/19/25 10:02 AM ET
Seems like it depends on which OOC games the additional conference game(s)
-- Femoyer Hokie
Sep 21, 2025 at 02:15 PM ET
Femoyer Hokie
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09/21/25 02:15 PM ET
I agree with everything in your post, but those points demonstrate another-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 22, 2025 at 10:09 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/22/25 10:09 AM ET
You mean Wake Forest, Boston College, and SMU are overpaid.**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 21, 2025 at 01:38 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/21/25 01:38 PM ET
Is ESPN paying more to other conferences for a 9th? I honestly don’t know
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 01:15 PM ET
Stech
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09/19/25 01:15 PM ET
The SEC is getting more. But ESPN didn’t want to pay initially.
-- RandomAsianGuy
Sep 20, 2025 at 01:31 PM ET
RandomAsianGuy
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09/20/25 01:31 PM ET
Yep, they are def. paying the SEC more. A good amount more.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 19, 2025 at 02:56 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/19/25 02:56 PM ET
Then 8+2 seems like a slam dunk now, could go to 9 later. I think 10 P4 is
-- Stech
Sep 20, 2025 at 07:40 AM ET
Stech
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09/20/25 07:40 AM ET
The problem with 9 conference games is that teams won't have as much
-- VTHokie2000
Sep 20, 2025 at 12:40 PM ET
VTHokie2000
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09/20/25 12:40 PM ET
It makes zero sense in the ACC to go to 9 conf. games.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 19, 2025 at 09:48 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/19/25 09:48 AM ET
Why would ND care either way ?**
-- TerryD
Sep 19, 2025 at 09:03 AM ET
TerryD
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09/19/25 09:03 AM ET
ND doesn’t want to play more ACC games, the teams playing ND will want 8,
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 09:17 AM ET
Stech
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09/19/25 09:17 AM ET
You still didn't explain why ND would care what the ACC does
-- TerryD
Sep 19, 2025 at 01:05 PM ET
TerryD
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09/19/25 01:05 PM ET
It’s a given that ND only cares about themselves, but they are part of the
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 01:10 PM ET
Stech
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09/19/25 01:10 PM ET
Jeez given the ACC predicament
-- Vippie1
Sep 19, 2025 at 08:45 AM ET
Vippie1
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09/19/25 08:45 AM ET
Would be more entertaining, but it’d probably make it harder to get coaches
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 09:01 AM ET
Stech
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09/19/25 09:01 AM ET
I get that is probably the conventional wisdom
-- Vippie1
Sep 19, 2025 at 02:49 PM ET
Vippie1
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09/19/25 02:49 PM ET
ACC teams aren't going to be making the CFP field anyway.
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 19, 2025 at 09:51 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/19/25 09:51 AM ET
Toledo would win this year. **
-- Big12 guy
Sep 19, 2025 at 09:57 AM ET
Big12 guy
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09/19/25 09:57 AM ET
Toledo is usually no slouch.**
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 19, 2025 at 10:03 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/19/25 10:03 AM ET
BTW, they have quite the offensive line
-- Big12 guy
Sep 19, 2025 at 10:09 AM ET
Big12 guy
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09/19/25 10:09 AM ET
Good idea, but Jim “Dame” Phillips serves ND 1st & the rest of the ACC 2nd.
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 09:10 AM ET
Stech
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09/19/25 09:10 AM ET
Was thinking more of Clemson signing the series with ND
-- EDGEMAN
Sep 19, 2025 at 09:15 AM ET
EDGEMAN
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09/19/25 09:15 AM ET
Agreed that should happen, & ND should have gone to 6 ACC games expansion
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 09:20 AM ET
Stech
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09/19/25 09:20 AM ET
The problem is that if the ACC tried to play hard ball, ND would just-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 19, 2025 at 09:55 AM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/19/25 09:55 AM ET
It’s more than that IMHO, ND will lead the way to merge ACC & Big East when
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 01:31 PM ET
Stech
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09/19/25 01:31 PM ET
Of course presidents reference it.
-- Pylons
Sep 21, 2025 at 06:02 PM ET
Pylons
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09/21/25 06:02 PM ET
When it comes to academic rankings, perception is everything. **
-- Big12 guy
Sep 22, 2025 at 07:30 AM ET
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09/22/25 07:30 AM ET
There it is again, even the SEC is talking about it for why UNC & UVA are
-- Stech
Sep 20, 2025 at 12:39 AM ET
Stech
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09/20/25 12:39 AM ET
If academics meant that much, Utah and Colorado wouldn't be in the Big 12.
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-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 19, 2025 at 03:03 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/19/25 03:03 PM ET
Utah and Colorado had no where else to go, B10 didn’t want Stanford & Cal,
-- Stech
Sep 20, 2025 at 12:34 AM ET
Stech
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09/20/25 12:34 AM ET
I'm not sure what any of that has to do with me saying you're wrong about-
-- Baltimore_Hokie
Sep 21, 2025 at 01:39 PM ET
Baltimore_Hokie
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09/21/25 01:39 PM ET
Much like when Texas had their own Longhorn station in the B12. Thank you,
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 01:21 PM ET
Stech
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09/19/25 01:21 PM ET
I really don't understand, comparing Texas's situation
-- Big12 guy
Sep 19, 2025 at 02:03 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/19/25 02:03 PM ET
We agree to disagree, next subject maybe we agree.**
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 02:36 PM ET
Stech
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09/19/25 02:36 PM ET
OK, but please explain what we are disagreeing on. Honestly,
-- Big12 guy
Sep 19, 2025 at 02:41 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/19/25 02:41 PM ET
Texas running the B12 with the LHN and not caring much about the conference
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 02:57 PM ET
Stech
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09/19/25 02:57 PM ET
Well, then you are right, we disagree. You are
-- Big12 guy
Sep 19, 2025 at 03:04 PM ET
Big12 guy
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09/19/25 03:04 PM ET
I get it, you don't understand the significance of a presence of VT in DMV,
-- Stech
Sep 19, 2025 at 03:41 PM ET
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09/19/25 03:41 PM ET